Im extremely disappointed with Hive Scum because

…It doesnt have Dueling Sword and Dual Las Pistols :see_no_evil_monkey: :hear_no_evil_monkey: :speak_no_evil_monkey:
Otherwise Im having fun with the class :grin:

Now before you cry out (or since some might have already have at mention of giving Ganger the DS :rofl:) cool yer jets! Let me briefly explain.

All I wanted for Christmas was to cosplay as a Discount Kal Jerico, who uses Dueling Sword and Dual Las Pistols. Sure, the Heavy Sword looks the part but I honestly dont like it very much. The dual stub pistols are, however, pretty ace. I would still prefer to get closer to canon Kal. Normally I dont use the DS but in this case I would rock it with my Jericola.

So please Fatshark, make my dreams come true, give me DS and two Las Pistols!

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I feel like this is something they should just do with Veteran, they already have the ‘las weapon focus’ (one node) and the DS, just let him hold two! He needs the help at this point anyway! (and I can see it ‘lore wise’ being ‘hay, the scum is doing it, I can’t be out done! uh uhh randomly grabs another las pistol’.

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Id be super happy if both got it :smiley:

Or better yet, give the Vet a pistol melee combo instead as thats very thematic as a Sergeant in a Guard Squad.

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Lasguns are definitely one of the things that Veteran should do best so I don’t agree. Hiver is already pretty spoiled for choice and even has 2 more weapons than Arbites with the DLC pack. And since it’s new it didn’t have one of its exclusive weapons ruined by giant HP buffs and no rebalancing (oh man that 4 shot Arbites shotgun is hot trash).

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Hive Scum is getting green (not from toxin) but jealousy.

He does want that DS, Heavy Bolter and dare I say an anti-armour stagger maul like Cop and Big man.

With the upmost respect… I dont care :squinting_face_with_tongue: I just want to cosplay as Kal Jerico.

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how about dual dueling sword? make it fat!

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Make it four and we have a deal… and probably a Genestealer infestation!

But seriously, I just want one sword and a couple Las Pistols. Maybe even the power falchion because I like it more than the Heavy Sword.

Dual Wield was falsely advertised successfully.

I am completely disappointed with them too, but for different reasons

They suck, and I do mean they just dont meet the gold standard of what a havoc class should be. They struggle with armor, and the “answer” to armor is a missile launcher that SUCKS. everything besides chem nades sucks about this class to its “exhaust” mechanic to its gameplay style, and why is desperado the only skill in the game that isnt cooling down during activation? charge zealot relies on mechanics like this and this class feels similarly reliant on being able to get the cooldown lower on desperado. not to mention the stim mechanic…. you are pigeonholed into one direction for the stim because if you add multiple layers to the stim it jumps from 45 sec cd to 75…. such a massive trade off. This class feels like you need either stim or desperado going to be able to survive much so its a huge let down that this class feels so weird and clunky.

If its not because you also wanna cosplay as discount Kal Jerico then I dont wanna hear it.

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I’m so happy this class doesn’t have the duelling sword, it should be deleted from the game.

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You should try needle. Chem toxin even works better than uncanny soulblaze on carapace.

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Havoc was a mistake. Balancing for Havoc is the bigger mistake.

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Shiva has entered the chat

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Alternatively they could just balance it properly by removing the insane damage and stagger on heavy and special attack. It should work well vs horde, but it really shouldnt be killing bosses and armoured on pokes.

I was using the needle with chem grenades last night and I feel a nerf incoming especially on the grenades. Id nerf them by reducing the aoe time on the ground.

GeneShiva? :grin:

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I disagree with you there, there should be content for people of all difficulty ranges.

Balancing against Havoc makes every difficulty below obsolete.

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how do you balance it that way when player interaction is what needs to be balanced. Not everyone will be of the same skill level.

Difficulties in DarkTide should be like they are in Vermintide 2. Auric should pose a serious challenge to people who are not acquainted to the game’s mechanics, enemies, weapons and how they all interplay with each other. Auric should be the ultimate challenge for casuals and a fun time for experienced players.

Now Havoc should be like Cataclysm and above (Onslaught mod) and be reserved for absolute sweats who crave a challenge. If DarkTide was balanced like that, literally everyone would be happy, not just me, but also you too.

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