# I just want reds

**URL:** <https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [December 9, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288 "2025-12-09T18:14:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leebee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/leebee/32/104326_2.png) [@Leebee](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Leebee)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/21 "2025-12-10T01:49:11Z")

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i’d rather the stats be more meaningful first (especially mobility)

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**Author:** ![Enclave](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/enclave/32/73043_2.png) [@Enclave](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Enclave)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/22 "2025-12-10T01:51:52Z")

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I don’t want stat buffs

I just don’t want 80% to be the maximum seriously it should be 100% for just visual clarity sake.

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**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/23 "2025-12-10T01:55:49Z")

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I have more issue with the item colour names than the item colours themselves.

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**Author:** ![Raichu](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/raichu/32/111655_2.png) [@Raichu](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Raichu)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/24 "2025-12-10T02:09:18Z")

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They just need to be 80% current value become the 100% then reds be 100% across all 5 stats

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**Author:** ![Freaktacular](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Freaktacular](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Freaktacular)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/25 "2025-12-10T04:49:27Z")

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also, curios are capped as well

health should go up to 25% and toughness to 20%

where’s the power creep in uncapping that?

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**Author:** ![Draconian](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/draconian/32/78095_2.png) [@Draconian](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Draconian)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/26 "2025-12-10T06:30:25Z")

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If they were to ever introduce reds, it would have to be done through the crafting system somehow. Unless it’s a “play this mission and acquire one random red weapon” type of thing.

Havoc is a candidate for this, i suppose, but that’s gatekeeping a new feature from one subset of players in favor of another subset, that doesn’t even need more powerful weapons.

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**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/27 "2025-12-10T09:32:49Z")

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> [@Freaktacular](#):
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> where’s the power creep in uncapping that?

got the right game mode for ya

 ![copyImage](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/1/a/1a661ea606c6f4cde13543515c4c392b93be4a88.jpeg)

geez some people won’t stop until they get wimpy

mode

some of us you know actually enjoy a challenge and won’t want to see them dumbed down to the lowest denominator 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Khorne\_Dawg](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/khorne_dawg/32/111464_2.png) [@Khorne\_Dawg](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Khorne_Dawg)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/28 "2025-12-10T09:47:31Z")

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> [@Index](#):
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> but no, with certain weapons already going far above what they should, 100% is the last the game currently needs.
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> or cut the dps numbers down a third across the board and 50%for the culprits, then the 100% bling factor could be in balance

They should just convert “80%” to “100%” and “60%” to “80%” to finally shut people up! 😂

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**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/29 "2025-12-10T10:08:57Z")

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% are bullsht anyways if the value behind it can vary wildly based on the current “balancing”

all this “loot hunt” crap was unecessary from the start in my opinion.

give every weapon it’s basic utility and be done with it, rest is in the hand of a (skilled) player to make it work, or not.

“finesse”, “penetration”, “movement speed”

what the fkk? either the weapon uses the same ammo and caliber hence has the same penetration as every other using said “bullets” or its a totally different “this aint cod” chambering, “grain” and ammo type altogether.

80% here, 60% there my ass 😄

people want fancy colors on an item picture when in fact some should ponder how to put it to better use in an actual match.

1 aquila for every blue and green weapon others brought to an auric maelstrom match and I could buy the entire shop and then some 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Palumtra](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/palumtra/32/119106_2.png) [@Palumtra](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Palumtra)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/30 "2025-12-10T10:18:58Z")

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Devs: Best we can do is red skins after you max out the masteries.

Jokes aside red weapons would break the already problematic balancing even more, at this point that would do more harm than good.

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**Author:** ![Rainman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Rainman](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Rainman)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/31 "2025-12-10T11:57:40Z")

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I find it _INCREDIBLY_ strange that it’s taken them so long to implement it. The game is literally still incomplete without it. They may as well change all the “inspect” max stat values to reflect the 80% values rather than the 100% that has taken years to implement.

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**Author:** ![Dexta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dexta](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dexta)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/32 "2025-12-10T13:07:14Z")

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> [@Index](#):
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> geez some people won’t stop until they get wimpy
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> mode
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> some of us you know actually enjoy a challenge and won’t want to see them dumbed down to the lowest denominator 🤷‍♂️

It’s called having a life and once in a while even touching grass. Uncapping stats to 100 will change almost nothing in terms of balance and a 20% boost in ammo and damage won’t make people be better on even Auric Maelstrom let alone Havoc 30-40 that you tryhards can continue to “enjoy” (lol) in peace.

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**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/33 "2025-12-10T13:08:55Z")

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> [@Dexta](#):
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> It’s called having a life and once in a while even touching grass.

its called weakness and not of “them folk” got the cognitive ingame ability of those chewing grass 🐮 instead of touching 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Dexta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dexta](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dexta)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/34 "2025-12-10T13:10:28Z")

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> [@Index](#):
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> its called weakness

You’re playing a game , you’re not a Samurai warrior LMAO

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**Author:** ![Heretical\_Cactus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/heretical_cactus/32/73867_2.png) [@Heretical\_Cactus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Heretical_Cactus)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/35 "2025-12-10T13:14:06Z")

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Well, considering that Reds were a band aid fix that still was mostly a chore in VT2, it won’t be the people that want to have a life that it will impact the most.

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**Author:** ![Dexta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dexta](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dexta)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/36 "2025-12-10T13:17:45Z")

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Depends on the implementation

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**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/37 "2025-12-10T13:22:39Z")

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> [@Dexta](#):
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> You’re playing a game

exactly, something in my free time I put my heart and soul into.

you wanting to remain a mediocre player is your choice 🤷‍♂️

but don’t project your lacking ambition and passion into watering down a fun experience.

not everything needs to be turned into 💩 for the masses

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**Author:** ![Dexta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Dexta](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dexta)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/38 "2025-12-10T13:28:07Z")

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> [@Index](#):
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> not everything needs to be turned into 💩 for the masses

Exactly it needs to cater primarily to exemplar warriors like your esteemed self lmao not sure if trolling or actually taking yourself to seriously, if yes, do seek help.

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**Author:** ![Illithidbix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Illithidbix](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Illithidbix)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/39 "2025-12-10T13:43:43Z")

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Yeah all a VT2 red really does is mean you have to press the utterly cursed, cunting “Re-Roll Properties” button less. Which is frankly a godsend.

It has been well over 7 years since Vermintide 2 released, but I am still angry they didn’t import the Invocate and Offer system from the Vermintide 1 Shrine of Solace.

Offer let you choose to take the new roll or the old one.

Invocate let you reroll the % chance but if it was lower it kept your higher.

Both were RNG dust sinks but vastly less obnoxious than Reroll Properties.

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**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/i-just-want-reds/116288/40 "2025-12-10T13:53:58Z")

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> [@Dexta](#):
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> do seek help.

I advice the same, yours sounds like a pretty bland existence 🤷‍♂️

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