# Hilarious to see veteran going from elf class to worst one **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 5, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hilarious-to-see-veteran-going-from-elf-class-to-worst-one/83376 "2023-10-05T03:00:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 62
**Author:** ![Yobiraion](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/yobiraion/32/65051_2.png) [@Yobiraion](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Yobiraion)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hilarious-to-see-veteran-going-from-elf-class-to-worst-one/83376/62 "2023-10-07T18:42:43Z")
I agree with many of the points made here. I tried to approach the current veteran “issues” in this thread: > [@The Veteran "problem" and how to fix it](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-veteran-problem-and-how-to-fix-it/83625/1): > > Hello there! So, I read the complaints on the forums about veteran being weak and I decided to test a few builds & weapons. My understanding is that while in previous patches you used to make a build based around your weapon, in patch 13 you need to choose your weapon based on your talents. This leads us to 2 conclusions: Some of the weapons that used to be very strong now lack behind because there is no build to highlight their strengths (remember the builds are now talent-based and not we… Feel free to add your ideas there. Maybe we can come up with something solid 🙂 --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hilarious-to-see-veteran-going-from-elf-class-to-worst-one/83376)._