Havoc isn't a good balance consideration

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide General Discussion
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I would argue Havoc isn’t “balanced” to begin with (or rather, throw out the concept when referring to it) - it’s just unfair - and that’s great!

People often conflate fun and challenge, but they’re two very different concepts. Fun is often found in beating a challenge you’re ready for. Getting your face kicked in by challenge you’re not ready for is not fun.

Havoc is there to challenge the best players in the game - it is not ‘to be fair’ or ‘to be fun’ and it is an optional mode. It exists to be beaten, and it’s much more satisfying to beat it knowing how hard it was - not because it was fair, or because it was fun, but because it was hard.

We’ve long seen the comments from players saying they want more of a challenge from Darktide. Players would like to continually challenge themselves and improve their skills. You want to face the horrors of the tide.
If you’re a player who relishes overcoming obstacles and seeks to measure and improve your abilities, then Havoc has been crafted specifically for you.
- Release announcement

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Even if FS has erroneously called it a looter shooter in some marketing (source?), that just sounds like another example of FS miscommunication.

They’ve said outright that it was hybrid combat. “Not an FPS with optional melee weapon”

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Havoc balancing is a garbage fire.

They ramped the gunners up to 1000% when they should have just cranked up all damage and hp proportionally across the board.

Having aimbot gunners with mini nukes is not even remotely fun when there is NO COVER and no cover system as well as the game doing everything else to encourage you to melee.

If you die from gunners in havoc you just feel cheated.

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I think havoc is a good argument to show what’s OP

But it’s not a good argument to show what’s weak