# Havoc Clearance Not UpdatingProperly! **URL:** \ **Category:** Technical Support\ **Tags:** acknowledged\ **Created:** [August 13, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-clearance-not-updatingproperly/111757 "2025-08-13T15:45:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sotpos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Sotpos](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Sotpos)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-clearance-not-updatingproperly/111757/1 "2025-08-13T15:45:45Z")
### Issue Type (Required): Other ### Issue Description (Required): I completed a havoc missions with clearance level 31 last week, meaning once the week rolled over and the cache reward granted I should have been promoted to havoc level 31 for this week to start with. I got the reward chest for havoc 31 verifying the completion of that run. I have had this happen multiple times now and let it slide as it is a known issue and was hoping for a fix but its getting incredibly aggravating. I don’t typically host my own team so helping others complete their missions is how I typically rank up and it’s making it feel like there’s no point in playing at the moment as im not ranking up like I should. This happens 100% of the time I complete a higher rank than my own in someone else’s mission. From havoc 31, 29, 28, 26, and 25, I have not gotten any of the promotions I should. ### [PC] Do You Use Mods? (Optional): Yes, and I’ve tried disabling them ### Reproduction Rate (Required): Constant (100%) ### Platform (Required): PC - Steam ### Player ID (Optional): 0308991574 is my fatshark friend code ---
**Author:** ![FatsharkJulia](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/fatsharkjulia/32/11653_2.png) [@FatsharkJulia](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/FatsharkJulia)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-clearance-not-updatingproperly/111757/2 "2025-08-14T08:58:08Z")
Hi Sotpos! This mechanic was updated in Nightmares & Visions: > [@Nightmares & Visions - Patch Notes](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/nightmares-visions-patch-notes/106200/1): > > Based on feedback received, players’ new order next week will no longer be equivalent to the highest played the previous week, rather we’ve opted to roll over the current order rank. > > **Dev note:** _The inactivity decay is still active and it only triggers upon no interaction with the Havoc system._ ---
**Author:** ![Sotpos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Sotpos](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Sotpos)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-clearance-not-updatingproperly/111757/3 "2025-08-14T19:58:19Z")
Wow, must have missed that. Unfortunately thought this was just a bug. With a schedule like mine, its hard to put together a pre-made group even when using the discord group and other resources. Running with random players while de-ranking is still a thing, ends up in a semi-endless treadmill between levels 20-35 where you’ll rank up 2-3 times and then de rank 4 more. Might have to pump the brakes on darktide until I hear about improvement or changes. ---
**Author:** ![CH3DD4R\_G0B-L1N](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ch3dd4r_g0b-l1n/32/96421_2.png) [@CH3DD4R\_G0B-L1N](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2025, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-clearance-not-updatingproperly/111757/4 "2025-08-14T21:11:17Z")
Wait, you mean this totally positive retention ELO mechanic isn’t making you want to play more? ---
**Author:** ![Sotpos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Sotpos](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Sotpos)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-clearance-not-updatingproperly/111757/5 "2025-08-15T01:09:27Z")
It’s one of the worst progression match making systems of any game I’ve played. You do find good team mates, but sometimes it just throws a curveball at you (twins, multiple bosses, horde, barrel/burster) and then you do just get some team mates that are used to lone wolfing it and I swear its 3-4 steps forward, 2-3 back or more. I could see the weekly decay honestly, but combine that with the the regular de-rank and its just poor all around. I may try one here and there but this makes me want to break away and paint minis instead or something.