# Havoc 40 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 23, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361 "2025-06-23T17:51:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Valdor228](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a88e4f/32.png) [@Valdor228](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Valdor228)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/1 "2025-06-23T17:51:25Z")
Drop Havoc again!!! Why do I waste so much time, effort and nerves if you artificially drop my rank it every time!? How long will this continue? ---
**Author:** ![NibblesMcP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ec9cab/32.png) [@NibblesMcP](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/NibblesMcP)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/2 "2025-06-23T19:41:54Z")
Right?? They could have warned us without doing this bs. ---
**Author:** ![kqgee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kqgee/32/28555_2.png) [@kqgee](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/kqgee)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/3 "2025-06-23T20:01:06Z")
As someone who wont touch Havoc with a 10 foot pole , can you explain what Drop means? I can only assume they reset your rank… Also what’s the issue with re-grinding up to 40? You’ll be back in a day or 2! ---
**Author:** ![Merick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Merick](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Merick)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/4 "2025-06-23T20:13:22Z")
new havoc season everyone who was 40 is now 30 and has to grind back up again ---
**Author:** ![kqgee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kqgee/32/28555_2.png) [@kqgee](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/kqgee)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/5 "2025-06-23T20:23:56Z")
Seems like that’s the point of havoc, to have something to grind for.. but I could be wrong..What do havoc players even want? ---
**Author:** ![Cujo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Cujo](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cujo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/6 "2025-06-24T06:23:12Z")
I wish I could at least keep the 40 over my head as a little trophy. Havok didn’t even get harder, why reset? ---
**Author:** ![Void13](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/void13/32/99143_2.png) [@Void13](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Void13)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/7 "2025-06-24T17:37:56Z")
This, finally got my 40 on Sunday, for them to take it away on Monday. I’m pissed. ---
**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/8 "2025-06-24T17:39:55Z")
> [@kqgee](#): > > wrong..What do havoc players even want? show my “havoc 40” title and prove i have the longest 😄 ---
**Author:** ![kqgee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kqgee/32/28555_2.png) [@kqgee](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/kqgee)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/9 "2025-06-24T17:42:55Z")
Yea, seems a bit underbaked and something seasons could easily fix. HEY FS! Hire someone from Rocket League to help implement how a season cycle will work. ---
**Author:** ![fuugesnamo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@fuugesnamo](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/fuugesnamo)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/10 "2025-06-24T17:50:00Z")
> [@kqgee](#): > > What do havoc players even want? I like the game actually being hard, i don’t like having to constantly working the game to be hard. ---
**Author:** ![Devisator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed655f/32.png) [@Devisator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Devisator)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/11 "2025-06-24T17:53:25Z")
Havocs titles are to easy you should be like auric storm survivor in the way you should have to complete 5 level 40s consecutively for havoc forged and 10 level 35s for true survivor 😂 ---
**Author:** ![syatek](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/syatek/32/116371_2.png) [@syatek](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/syatek)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/12 "2025-06-24T18:08:03Z")
Yeah, there is a new Havoc campaign… this is only second time its reset i think, last time was at 2.0 but im not 100% on that I also surprised and now dissappointed & frustrated upon learning our rank decreased by 10… Started playing Havoc like 3 months ago, and finally reached Assignment Rank 40 two weeks ago! It was a fun push and I was happy because - every group accepts my invite request lol - rank didnt demote when I failed missions - this encouraged me to help players climbing the ranks more too now, youre telling me im back at 30 and have to grind to 40 again!!! that was a miserable climb! I dropped 38-\> 35 at one point lol. Really disheartening tbh and has totally killed my interest in Havoc rn. (on top of that, with the huge spike in returning players, I bet Havoc will be a total sh\*tshow for the next month or so… tons of mid Arbiters, and newish players that dont excel in Havoc) there needs to be a Title reward at the end of a Havoc “season” imo if youre going to strip our ranks… something that identifies our 40 from last “campaign” sure, some portraits and titles can still help us stand out, but i also had Havoc Forged/Exemplar before 40… ---
**Author:** ![Void13](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/void13/32/99143_2.png) [@Void13](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Void13)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/13 "2025-06-24T18:14:27Z")
> [@syatek](#): > > - every group accepts my invite request lol > - rank didnt demote when I failed missions > - this encouraged me to help players climbing the ranks more too This! ---
**Author:** ![syatek](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/syatek/32/116371_2.png) [@syatek](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/syatek)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/14 "2025-06-24T23:39:52Z")
just demoted to 29 because every game had someone (including me) get Disconnected or Crash Fatshark needs to put their servers as a modifier because it kills runs wow really glad i pushed to 40 a few weeks ago ---
**Author:** ![Bastion220](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b77776/32.png) [@Bastion220](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Bastion220)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/15 "2025-06-25T07:55:17Z")
Its funny how people that dont play havoc have the worst takes but literally allows them to say it like it is once in a blue moon. to be clear, as a h40 I fulyl support this change, theres WAy too many people who pla ythere that shouldnt who have be artificially rank inflated by being carried. When they solo they fold like a house of cards. Clean them up. ---
**Author:** ![MissVoltz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/missvoltz/32/91574_2.png) [@MissVoltz](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MissVoltz)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/16 "2025-06-25T20:05:51Z")
I feel rather demoralized again. I’d like them to tell us how long the season will be, and maybe add a reward for reaching 40 again for the trouble. The solo que climb from 30-40 is just a emiserating slog (mostly because of the constant rejections if you’re not already 40.) I spend more time waiting in the lobby sometimes than actually playing the game. ---
**Author:** ![Vror](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/vror/32/97172_2.png) [@Vror](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Vror)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/17 "2025-06-25T21:02:43Z")
This is why I didn’t accept a single Arbites on my havoc lobbies, didn’t wanna risk a crash Now that I’m 40 again I can chill ---
**Author:** ![syatek](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/syatek/32/116371_2.png) [@syatek](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/syatek)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/18 "2025-06-25T23:28:52Z")
yeah its really frustrating that theres no title or something from the last “season” that shows we are Havoc 40 players… getting declined again and again since im “only 30” now… smh ---
**Author:** ![Merick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Merick](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Merick)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/19 "2025-06-26T00:20:36Z")
should have gotten true survivor then ---
**Author:** ![syatek](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/syatek/32/116371_2.png) [@syatek](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/syatek)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361/20 "2025-06-26T00:38:51Z")
i have havoc forged/exemplar, the hella skulls I & 10 cache frame… should be enough lol [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/havoc-40/109361.md?page=2)