# Get your heads out of your a\*\*

**URL:** <https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 19, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860 "2024-02-19T15:28:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cosmophase](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cosmophase/32/74846_2.png) [@Cosmophase](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cosmophase)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/1 "2024-02-19T15:28:06Z")

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Cosmetics are broken, guns are broken, sound ques are broken, servers are sh\*t, bosses throw you through walls and ceilings. I downloaded the weapons attachment mod just to fix your god-awful cosmetics not working properly and its hilarious how a mod can provide me with more enjoyment and immersion than a company with millions of dollars supporting their actions. This game is quickly becoming a joke and I will gladly change my steam review to negative if there isn’t any communication in the next week. Live service game means we get consistent updates, as of right now Vermintide 2 gets more updates than this. Get. Your. Heads. Out. Of. Your. Ass.

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**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/marxistdictator/32/106716_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarxistDictator)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/2 "2024-02-19T15:31:51Z")

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I don’t know if I agree with the format but I like the spirit. Game is getting dusted in the co op category lately (as much as I absolutely hate people comparing everything co op to this game). The unique gameplay and 40k thing isn’t enough for people. They need fixes to issues that are long standing or re appearing. And Content.

And cosmetics that are in the files that people actually want, like those Cadian sets…can we give the clown series a rest for a bit, or add a seperate big top tent store to house these magnificent wares?

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**Author:** ![dominikmadmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@dominikmadmx](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dominikmadmx)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/3 "2024-02-19T15:46:29Z")

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The game is broken on nearly every level. It is absolutely enraging how very little is being done about any of it’s issues. It literally is unplayable due to certain bugs and incredibily annoying due to “features” Fat Shark has came up with. The complete lack of any comms in regards to these issues results in the game slowly but surely dying. And still FS does not seem to give a single F. There has to be a way to force some changes here. It can’t continue like this.

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**Author:** ![AlphaOmegaMan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alphaomegaman/32/79677_2.png) [@AlphaOmegaMan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AlphaOmegaMan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/4 "2024-02-19T15:47:21Z")

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@brosgw at this rate we might need a “What-are-you-doing-Fatshark Memorial” thread.

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**Author:** ![wakito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@wakito](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/wakito)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/5 "2024-02-19T15:48:53Z")

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We should have made one alongside the Crafting Memorial, the game didn’t fix _anything_ since crafting underwhelming release

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**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/marxistdictator/32/106716_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarxistDictator)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/6 "2024-02-19T15:57:44Z")

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because they only ever give us the slightest of conveniences instead of fixing anything with items, every game. this is why you need to keep repeating the message until it goes through however. we fought for the contract board in VT1 after getting ranald boned forever. if we didn’t do it in VT2 you’d be stuck grinding Veteran difficulty every so often for crafting materials.

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**Author:** ![dominikmadmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@dominikmadmx](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dominikmadmx)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/7 "2024-02-19T16:00:52Z")

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It is a very sad conclusion but until we get a competitor to this game, or FS goes through some serious restructure we might as well howl at the moon. It will give us the same result. Nothing will be done. Maybe the game should really just die.

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**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/8 "2024-02-19T16:38:32Z")

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The game has competition in the co-op market. And SM2 might deliver the 40k competition in 7 months. Might.

But yeah FS needs to be completely restructured. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Tencent taking a firmer hand here might end up being a _good_ thing.

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**Author:** ![AlphaOmegaMan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alphaomegaman/32/79677_2.png) [@AlphaOmegaMan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AlphaOmegaMan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/9 "2024-02-19T16:49:12Z")

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> [@Ragnarok101](#):
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> The game has competition in the co-op market. And SM2 might deliver the 40k competition in 7 months. Might.

I second this. That leaked multiplayer info seemed like it will have _at least_ what SM1 had + the coop campaign. Fingers crossed there’s expansions for it planned in the future. It might be a spiritual successor to Eternal Crusade.

> [@Ragnarok101](#):
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> But yeah FS needs to be completely restructured. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Tencent taking a firmer hand here might end up being a _good_ thing.

 ![heresy](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/f/e/fe5e5a40e473ab50ce1547435b0dc4b92f000610.jpeg)  
(But you’re probably right)

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**Author:** ![Molonious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Molonious](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Molonious)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/10 "2024-02-19T16:59:55Z")

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The game is currently in the process of dying.

 ![Screenshot 2024-02-19 084656](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/5/7/579f2f5ef32f40ed90ae04a3d7b9aabd849565fb.jpeg)

Particularly note how there was no holiday bump.

meanwhile the competition’s primary problem is maintaining enough servers for all the demand with two orders of magnitude more active players.

 ![Screenshot 2024-02-19 085718](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/1/b/1b414d058dfabe2e6438ec52ad16bdce5853b982.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Bigpfeiffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Bigpfeiffer](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Bigpfeiffer)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/11 "2024-02-19T17:11:01Z")

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Man I really need to try HD2! How would you guys rate the gunplay and stuff vs DT? I love how visceral and gory all the action is. HD2 pretty good? Thanks!

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**Author:** ![dominikmadmx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@dominikmadmx](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dominikmadmx)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/12 "2024-02-19T17:11:39Z")

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This makes me so angry. The game is literally a money printing machine if done right. The IP that has literal millions of neckbeards living in their basements driving 20yr old Civic’s and spending thousands if not tens of thousands on minis and paints can’t get a game that would allow them to empty their walltes…

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**Author:** ![Eisenfaust](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/eisenfaust/32/64598_2.png) [@Eisenfaust](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Eisenfaust)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/13 "2024-02-19T17:19:36Z")

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> [@Cosmophase](#):
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> Cosmetics are broken

Some have minor issues, some are awfully designed - most not having a true female variant is personally my biggest gripe.

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> guns are broken

That so? I generally like gunplay and find weapon balance generally in a good state. What annoys me the most is current spawn behaviour that always has some melee trash behind you or swarm you with rager hordes make using any ranged weapon that isn’t quick-draw-massive-burst-switch-back-to-melee a pain to use (except for Lucius thanks to bayonet)

> [@Cosmophase](#):
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> servers are sh\*t

Maybe - living in Germany I can’t tell wether problems are server side or once again client side 😉

> [@Cosmophase](#):
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> sound ques are broken

Yes! Potentially game breaking.

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> bosses throw you through walls and ceilings

Absolutely annoying!

While I don’t agree with everything I’m absolutely with you that fixing real bugs should be prioritised over cosmetic fixes!

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**Author:** ![Molonious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Molonious](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Molonious)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/14 "2024-02-19T17:41:27Z")

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> [@Bigpfeiffer](#):
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> Man I really need to try HD2! How would you guys rate the gunplay and stuff vs DT? I love how visceral and gory all the action is. HD2 pretty good? Thanks!

Haven’t been able to get in and play, too many other people wanted in 🤣

> [@dominikmadmx](#):
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> This makes me so angry. The game is literally a money printing machine if done right. The IP that has literal millions of neckbeards living in their basements driving 20yr old Civic’s and spending thousands if not tens of thousands on minis and paints can’t get a game that would allow them to empty their walltes…

I feelz ya. The small number of changes needed to fix some of these issues is mind boggling, yet Fatshark really goes out of its way to refuse to acknowledge or talk to these issues, much less actually address them. Someone there is _really_ wedded to the RNG gear itemization and Gacha gambling, but _really_ doesn’t want to talk about how its an open face wound for this game.

The general team members at Fatshark should be furious. The core gameplay loop, the universe immersion, etc are all stunning. Their efforts are wasted however when someone in a C-suite or a Dev manager is deeply infatuated with stupid idea they won’t let go of that drags the rest of project down.

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**Author:** ![AlphaOmegaMan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alphaomegaman/32/79677_2.png) [@AlphaOmegaMan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AlphaOmegaMan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/15 "2024-02-19T17:51:15Z")

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It’s the best new release I’ve played in years. If you like Darktide and you have a decent crew to play with, you’ll probably love it.

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**Author:** ![jesper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jesper](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/jesper)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/16 "2024-02-19T18:14:30Z")

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> [@Eisenfaust](#):
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> While I don’t agree with everything I’m absolutely with you that fixing real bugs should be prioritised over cosmetic fixes!

Here is the thing though… these things have absolutely nothing in common. The guys making the cosmetics cannot fix the bugs. Should they just sit still and do absolutely nothing?

So… I don’t accept this argument, but I’m also not playing the game at the moment because of the crafting mostly. I love the missions, even though they are slightly bugged I have found nothing that I consider game- or even immersion- or joy breaking. But that’s just me.

Everything around the missions, however, I find so atrocious that I’d rather not play this game at all. I have no interest in playing a game where the progression actively makes me angry.

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**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/17 "2024-02-19T18:24:19Z")

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> [@jesper](#):
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> The guys making the cosmetics cannot fix the bugs. Should they just sit still and do absolutely nothing?

Nah - instead, have the cosmetic guys design _new penance outfits_. You get some more community goodwill and the cosmetics guys are doing something that justifies their salary.

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**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/marxistdictator/32/106716_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarxistDictator)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/18 "2024-02-19T18:34:53Z")

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We don’t even have 1/5th of the current penance cosmetics in the game, they should add those before making more. I am here again asking for those career-linked headpieces for ogryn. And veteran, did you know the generic headsets the bots wear are tied to the squad leader career?

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**Author:** ![Heretical\_Cactus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/heretical_cactus/32/73867_2.png) [@Heretical\_Cactus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Heretical_Cactus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/19 "2024-02-19T18:43:47Z")

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Except there are already 2 full Penance set for each archetypes; + a few other sets that don’t look like they will be for the Prem shop.

The only reason that make me think on why we don’t have the other Penances is the backlash that came from the initial penances (The redacted)

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**Author:** ![wakito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@wakito](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/wakito)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/get-your-heads-out-of-your-a/91860/20 "2024-02-19T18:58:31Z")

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The gunplay is great, the physics are miles better than Darktide and you can completely disassemble enemies (or yourself/your allies). Some enemies even have special interactions when they are too damaged like the Commander bugs lashing out and becoming extremely angry for a few seconds before bleeding out if you explode his head

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