# Easy "fix" for Demonhost **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [November 27, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624 "2022-11-27T15:34:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Kharn](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Kharn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/1 "2022-11-27T15:34:34Z")
I personally think that Demonhosts just like minotaurs are something new we need to learn to deal with first. I don’t think he is horribly unbalanced. Hard for sure, but not impossible. But it’s an incredible slog to kill 5 or 6 of them in one mission because they spawned unavoidable. Therefore i propose: Leave him as is, but treat him as a single entity per level. Even heal him for all i care, but if he is killed once, he should not appear again. If he manages to kill two players and retreats thats ok. But fighting him too often is more of a slog than it is fun. ---
**Author:** ![bendking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/bendking/32/26093_2.png) [@bendking](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/bendking)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/2 "2022-11-27T15:42:03Z")
Why do people want to nerf this boss? You’re not _supposed_ to fight it. It’s entirely avoidable. ---
**Author:** ![Kharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Kharn](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Kharn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/3 "2022-11-27T15:49:05Z")
Is it really? If it is directly infront of where you need to get through? When it is directly infront of the chokepoint of a large area, then it is not optional. I certainly noticed that it sometimes is, but maybe i just had way too much bad luck. Needing to kill 5 out of 6 encounters in a level to progress does not seem “optional”. ---
**Author:** ![bendking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/bendking/32/26093_2.png) [@bendking](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/bendking)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/4 "2022-11-27T15:53:06Z")
If it is ever not avoidable, I would agree it needs changing. I haven’t seen that be the case yet. Also, you can just choose not to go to dark maps. ---
**Author:** ![LittleGreenFriend](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/littlegreenfriend/32/33519_2.png) [@LittleGreenFriend](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/LittleGreenFriend)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/5 "2022-11-27T15:53:42Z")
Demonhost can even spawn in the area where your team has just passed. That’s really confusing, not fun at all. ---
**Author:** ![Namazu](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/namazu/32/25928_2.png) [@Namazu](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Namazu)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/6 "2022-11-27T15:54:13Z")
it is always optional. There are always alternate routes. git gud ---
**Author:** ![Kharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Kharn](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Kharn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/7 "2022-11-27T16:31:06Z")
I am totally not that much against it. I just had a bad mission where he was unavoidable too often, and thought it needed changing. ---
**Author:** ![Kharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Kharn](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Kharn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/8 "2022-11-27T16:33:22Z")
Lol try to get an alternative route into a damm elevator. Lets try from below, because that seems more on level with your intelect. Also sry, for the insult but dumb answers require dumb replies. ---
**Author:** ![Koituu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/91b2a8/32.png) [@Koituu](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Koituu)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/9 "2022-11-27T16:37:04Z")
Incorrect, it does spawn in paths with no alternate routes… like in the small corridor that leads to the last big arena. ---
**Author:** ![SamSlade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@SamSlade](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SamSlade)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/10 "2022-11-27T16:38:28Z")
It’s fine… why is ever second post asking for nerfs? Just practice at it. ---
**Author:** ![Namazu](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/namazu/32/25928_2.png) [@Namazu](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Namazu)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/11 "2022-11-27T16:39:42Z")
I’ve never seen one spawn impassably. The agro radius is quite small. ---
**Author:** ![Kharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Kharn](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Kharn)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/12 "2022-11-27T16:40:30Z")
Thats my first sentence. But if it is really unavoidable, either fix that or make it a single entity. ---
**Author:** ![bendking](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/bendking/32/26093_2.png) [@bendking](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/bendking)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/easy-fix-for-demonhost/61624/13 "2022-11-27T16:50:01Z")
If that is the case, that definitely needs fixing.