# Delay on using Quell **URL:** \ **Category:** Bugs\ **Tags:** acknowledged\ **Created:** [December 15, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075 "2022-12-15T17:06:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ezonius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a4c791/32.png) [@ezonius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ezonius)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/1 "2022-12-15T17:06:55Z")
**Issue Description:** Reaching 100% peril multiple times within a short time will cause a 2-3 seconds delay before you’re able to use quell. **Steps to Reproduce:** Reach 100% peril multiples times in a short time. **Platform:** Steam **Reproduction Rate:** 100% **Upload Supporting Evidence:** After every brain burst, i hold R, but as you can see, there is a VERY LONG delay before it starts quelling. Same thing happens if you use a staff instead. ---
**Author:** ![drak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@drak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/drak)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/2 "2022-12-15T17:45:50Z")
I too experience this, good catch on the increasingly longer delay between ulting and quell actually firing off. ---
**Author:** ![bchenN](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/bchenn/32/28205_2.png) [@bchenN](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/bchenN)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/3 "2022-12-15T17:58:24Z")
> [@ezonius](#): > > e thing happens if you use a staff inst 100% reproduceable. Bug currently makes Psyker a lot less effective than before. Please update on expected timeline of fix, or at least if intended clarify intentions. Appreciate the support \<3 ---
**Author:** ![bchenN](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/bchenn/32/28205_2.png) [@bchenN](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/bchenN)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/4 "2022-12-15T18:15:41Z")
Happens consistently after hitting 100% twice in a row. So if you quell and go back to 100% twice in a row, the third time will stick. ---
**Author:** ![Ashreon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac8455/32.png) [@Ashreon](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ashreon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/5 "2022-12-15T19:12:06Z")
Muah, it is not guaranteed. I can only, reliably make this bug occur on BB and Force Sword (Push Attack). It does prevent quelling for all weapons as well as hand if you hit the threshold on Force Sword or BB. Staffs do not trigger this, at least not Purgatus or Surge, haven’t tested Voidstrike. ---
**Author:** ![ezonius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a4c791/32.png) [@ezonius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ezonius)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/6 "2022-12-15T19:24:48Z")
Wrong, it does happen with staff and also happens with force sword. And yes it happens as I described it. Hitting 100% multiple times in a row. A guy on steam forums gave more details. [How the new Brain Blast Psyker Quell Mechanic SEEMS to work :: Warhammer 40,000: Darktide The Mourningstar - General Discussions](https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/5792223132439586673/) ---
**Author:** ![Ashreon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac8455/32.png) [@Ashreon](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ashreon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/7 "2022-12-15T19:28:57Z")
It happens with BB and with Force Sword Push Attacks. I’ve just done several tests on Surge and Purgatus and they will still quell even if you hit 100% several times in a row. Staffs are not affected by this. If you do, however, swap from BB/Force Sword to quell on staff - yes, it is affected too. But staffs functions as normal otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![ezonius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a4c791/32.png) [@ezonius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ezonius)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/8 "2022-12-15T19:31:11Z")
It happens on Trauma staff, so only some staffs it seems ---
**Author:** ![Ashreon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac8455/32.png) [@Ashreon](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ashreon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/9 "2022-12-15T19:33:22Z")
And Voidstrike… It definitely smells like a bug that happens if you go too far beyond peril and is likely an issue with the new fix to peril quelling… ---
**Author:** ![ezonius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a4c791/32.png) [@ezonius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ezonius)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/10 "2022-12-15T19:41:37Z")
Also happens with Purgatus, if you just charge up the secondary beyond 100%, quell a little and then charge over 100% again without firing the staff it will happen. This can also be replicated on Surge ---
**Author:** ![Lowland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Lowland](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Lowland)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/11 "2022-12-15T20:04:19Z")
This makes it feel like you are lagging and your controls are not responding, which if working as intended is just pure Heresy in a first person shooter environment. ---
**Author:** ![LordofGreystoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@LordofGreystoke](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/LordofGreystoke)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/12 "2022-12-15T20:08:19Z")
I want to also point out how much harder this makes the “Brain burst 5 different specials in 12 seconds Penance.” Especially when brain burts damage is so bad at later levels that it takes multiple bursts to kill most specials. ---
**Author:** ![bchenN](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/bchenn/32/28205_2.png) [@bchenN](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/bchenN)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/13 "2022-12-15T20:35:17Z")
> [@Ashreon](#): > > d with Force Sword Push Attacks. > > I’ve just done several tests on Surge and Purgatus and they will still quell even if you hit 100% several times in a row. Staffs are not affected by this. > > If you do, however, swap from BB/F It happens with surge and purgatus staff if you charge but don’t attack. Charge to 100%, quell, Charge to 100% quell, charge to 100% try quelling. ---
**Author:** ![Levanon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ab097/32.png) [@Levanon](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Levanon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/14 "2022-12-15T20:46:20Z")
The fact that the devs haven’t acknowledged this as a bug yet is very telling. I have no words. ---
**Author:** ![SeasonedComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@SeasonedComa](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SeasonedComa)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/15 "2022-12-15T20:53:03Z")
> It happens with surge and purgatus staff if you charge but don’t attack. Charge to 100%, quell, Charge to 100% quell, charge to 100% try quelling. Confirmed as well. It can be even worse if you try to quell while holding the charge. Quickly release right click → quell before the animation goes to neutral can lock you in the charge animation for a few seconds, then it will go to neutral and still block you from quelling for a few seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Gobslotch](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gobslotch/32/51037_2.png) [@Gobslotch](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Gobslotch)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/16 "2022-12-15T21:01:11Z")
You think they should just remove Psyker at this point if they want to make it this Unpleasant to play. They only Added Psyker so they could make it 4 classes not 3. ---
**Author:** ![Ashreon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac8455/32.png) [@Ashreon](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ashreon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/17 "2022-12-15T22:00:10Z")
Yes, but that is a super fringe case problem, you wouldn’t keep charging your staff to 100% if you can’t fire it before 97%. In any case, your report needs to be structured like the below, otherwise they have no clue what is going on, what could be the cause and where to start looking: Issue Description: 1. Brain Burst can on subsequent quells after reaching 100% peril every time stop responding to active quelling in which it appears to be unresponsive. 2. Force Sword can on subsequent quells after reaching 100% peril every time by push attacking stop responding to active quelling and hangs for a few seconds. 3. Voidstrike and Trauma Staff can on subsequent active quelling after reaching 100% peril every time after an attack stop resonding to active quelling and hangs for a few seconds… 4. All Staffs can on subsequent quells after reaching 100% peril by charging (but not attacking) every time stop responding to active quelling and hangs for a few minutes. Steps to Reproduce: 1. Hit 100% Peril with Brain Burst → Quell to 97% peril → Brain Burst again → Quell to 97% peril → Brain Burst again → Quell. 2. Hit 100% Peril with Force Sword Push Attack → Quell to 99% peril → Push Attack Again → Quell to 99% peril → Push Attack again → Quell. 3. Hit 100% Peril with Voidstrike of Trauma Staff secondary attacks → Quell to 90% peril → Hit 100% peril again with a Secondary attack → Quell to 90% peril → Hit 100% peril with a secondary attack → Quell. 4. Charge any staff to 100% peril → Quell to 99% peril → Charge to 100% peril → Quell to 99% peril → Charge to 100% peril Reproduction Rate: Frequent Supporting Evidence: A video of each use case and how to reproduce it. Bug Reports needs to be _extremely_ specific otherwise they are unholy useless and it may seem super redundant and you need to be honest. It is not always that it does it, but it does it frequently. Don’t get me wrong, I find this extremely annoying as well that it slipped through the QA… Honestly, I don’t know what their QA is doing, but they’re certainly not trying to break the game as they ought to be trying. ---
**Author:** ![Ashreon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac8455/32.png) [@Ashreon](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ashreon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/18 "2022-12-15T22:04:58Z")
Dude, the released the patch 1 hour before Swedes go home from work, by the time this was discovered - an hour later. They would already have packed their bags and gone home for the day. Just keep this at the top and also… Yo @Aqshy We seem to have a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Aqshy](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/aqshy/32/31385_2.png) [@Aqshy](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Aqshy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/19 "2022-12-15T22:07:54Z")
Yup, we’re aware and it’s been passed to the team. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Ashreon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac8455/32.png) [@Ashreon](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ashreon)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/delay-on-using-quell/69075/20 "2022-12-15T22:09:00Z")
Thanks a bunch =)! Sorry for the ping, but people were getting… conspiratorial 🙂