# Deimos IV speed buff please

**URL:** <https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728>\
**Category:** Gameplay Feedback\
**Created:** [December 26, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728 "2024-12-26T18:19:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mubarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Mubarak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mubarak)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/1 "2024-12-26T18:19:13Z")

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You buffed the other two Psyker swords, please give this one some love like 5-10% attack speed buff.

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**Author:** ![dragomusic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dragomusic/32/77374_2.png) [@dragomusic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dragomusic)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/2 "2024-12-26T19:15:53Z")

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Do not do this

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**Author:** ![DVD.exe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dvd.exe/32/116175_2.png) [@DVD.exe](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DVD.exe)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/3 "2024-12-26T19:59:02Z")

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There’s a talent for that.

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**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/marxistdictator/32/106716_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarxistDictator)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/4 "2024-12-26T20:04:16Z")

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Doesn’t it already have the fastest light attacks?

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**Author:** ![Mubarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Mubarak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mubarak)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/5 "2024-12-26T20:51:44Z")

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This is exactly the reason I want the speed buff for. With the talent the sword feels just right, without it, it feels too sluggish when dealing with the hordes, especially if you don’t have the cleave.

> [@MarxistDictator](#):
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> Doesn’t it already have the fastest light attacks?

DS4 has 11.64 and D4 has 11.76, yet it still feels sluggish compared to the DS4 while clearing hordes.

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**Author:** ![DVD.exe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dvd.exe/32/116175_2.png) [@DVD.exe](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DVD.exe)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/6 "2024-12-26T21:06:55Z")

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> [@Mubarak](#):
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> without it, it feels too sluggish when dealing with the hordes

Don’t say thaaaaaaaaat

I’m not gonna bully, I promise. Diemos is so peak against elites that making it better vs hordes is probably uncalled for.

Just give them hordes ye ol push and force shove with the dodges and stuff.

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**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/marxistdictator/32/106716_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarxistDictator)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/7 "2024-12-26T22:01:42Z")

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Yeah Deimos is so strong without crits I don’t run riposte here. I use slaughterer for more cleave. I think all 3 are in a pretty good way though atm. Except the eviscerate special, that is so infrequently useful even in base damnation. Would really like to see that overhauled. Even the gimmicky things are trash (I miss the 5 seconds of melee crits after a special attack kill).

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**Author:** ![Mubarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Mubarak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mubarak)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/8 "2024-12-26T22:04:52Z")

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Another reason why I want a speed increase is this. 25 Crushers, look how smooth the 10% one went.

PS: It’s an autoclicker mouse (not macro and not programmable) with manual animation cancelling (quell on MB4 and MB5 with MultiBind mod and yes, I’m getting arthritis soon). The double click button when held sends 8 presses per second when held.

See the attached pic.

 ![7b](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/4/a/4a4b4ab6cffe2b46b4cd2d1450801ef7826efd68.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Geadly](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/geadly/32/92844_2.png) [@Geadly](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Geadly)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/9 "2024-12-27T00:11:16Z")

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What the 😟 is that  
You know, clips like this actually makes me sad that I play Ogryn…  
(_I am a bit salty for them nerfing Ogryn’s foldable shovels for being too strong against Crushers, well it’s Brutal Momentum that got nerfed_)

Anyway, real cool stuff, I’ll show this to my friend 👍

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**Author:** ![Ryshek](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ryshek/32/92339_2.png) [@Ryshek](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ryshek)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/10 "2024-12-27T00:28:17Z")

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I feel like dueling sword 4 \> Deimos

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**Author:** ![dragomusic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dragomusic/32/77374_2.png) [@dragomusic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dragomusic)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/11 "2024-12-27T05:07:03Z")

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In other words, the sky is blue.

However while DS 4 is better than the Deimos, Deimos still has insane single target and better stagger than the DS 4.

Also its funny and sad to me the Deimos poke has more stagger than the 2 handed FS poke.

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**Author:** ![alsozara](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alsozara/32/6944_2.png) [@alsozara](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/alsozara)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/12 "2024-12-27T05:31:27Z")

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Comparing everything to outlier top performers is not a good practice. It also massively undermines you in effect.

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**Author:** ![harlekein](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/harlekein/32/90957_2.png) [@harlekein](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/harlekein)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/13 "2024-12-27T07:06:11Z")

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DS4 is a mistake and needs a severe nerf against armor.

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**Author:** ![Mubarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Mubarak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mubarak)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/14 "2024-12-27T08:52:24Z")

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50 Crushers and 50 Maulers vs one toothpick

![](https://i.postimg.cc/FFgdxCyG/50c50m.webp)

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**Author:** ![Mubarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Mubarak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mubarak)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/15 "2024-12-27T08:56:59Z")

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DS4 special attack can easily stagger even the green Crushers instantly. Deimos doesn’t have that luxury.

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**Author:** ![Geadly](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/geadly/32/92844_2.png) [@Geadly](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Geadly)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/16 "2024-12-27T08:59:15Z")

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😭 😭

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**Author:** ![Mubarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Mubarak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mubarak)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/17 "2024-12-27T12:10:14Z")

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One Crusher per m2.

On paper Deimos can have more stagger but with DS4 you don’t even need the space to kite them.

See

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**Author:** ![dragomusic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dragomusic/32/77374_2.png) [@dragomusic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dragomusic)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/18 "2024-12-27T16:57:23Z")

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> [@Mubarak](#):
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> DS4 special attack

I can’t lie I haven’t touched the tooth pick in so long I completely forgot about the stagger poke.

Who thought this weapon was ok 😭

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**Author:** ![Mubarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Mubarak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mubarak)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/19 "2024-12-28T13:02:36Z")

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IMO if they are not going to nerf it, they should even buff it. Its mobility features are too damn good, close to the knife, yet its wielding speed and block windup/start up speed sucks for that good mobility stats.

I’m getting clipped while sprint slide blocking which doesn’t happen with the knife nor the Deimos.

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**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/3/1/319a2f41b73f03a4d9360defbe43058888a33c8c.png) [@system](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deimos-iv-speed-buff-please/103728/20 "2025-01-11T13:02:47Z")

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