# Defeat with all players alive

**URL:** <https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557>\
**Category:** Bugs\
**Tags:** need-more-info\
**Created:** [May 28, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557 "2020-05-28T22:30:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![AntiLoop](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antiloop/32/13682_2.png) [@AntiLoop](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AntiLoop)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/1 "2020-05-28T22:30:21Z")

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Skittergate deed.  
Just shy of the first boss. The game stops and presents the defeat screen.  
All players are alive and well.  
All players has lost connection afterwards.  
End with a broken connection screen.

This is the first time I have experienced a defeat from a broken connection.

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**Author:** ![KJeraD](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kjerad/32/69592_2.png) [@KJeraD](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/KJeraD)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/2 "2020-05-29T07:13:43Z")

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It just so happens that if the deed owner gets a very short connection issue, it’s quite possible that the mission will fail by presenting you with a “defeat” screen.

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**Author:** ![JayJay](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jayjay/32/19210_2.png) [@JayJay](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/JayJay)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/3 "2020-05-29T10:20:24Z")

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Shouldn’t you still see the deed owner disconnect in chat beforehand?  
@AntiLoop did you get that in chat?

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**Author:** ![AntiLoop](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antiloop/32/13682_2.png) [@AntiLoop](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AntiLoop)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2020, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/4 "2020-05-29T11:44:00Z")

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Im not sure.

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**Author:** ![AntiLoop](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antiloop/32/13682_2.png) [@AntiLoop](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AntiLoop)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/5 "2020-05-30T19:36:34Z")

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9 times in total now - over the course of less than 24 hours.

Only deeds.

ANNOYING.

Let me know when the game comes out of beta!

I’ll be spending my time and money on a different development team from here on out until you do.

 ![Skærmbillede (86)](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/f/1/f19a6aa09eed76fab0095129a1cee376fe234e9a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![anon75893681](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9e8a1a/32.png) [@anon75893681](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/anon75893681)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/6 "2020-05-30T21:01:00Z")

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Are you the one hosting the deeds?

You should try switching the deed host around if you play with friends.  
Or does it happen even on other players?

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**Author:** ![FatsharkJulia](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/fatsharkjulia/32/11653_2.png) [@FatsharkJulia](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/FatsharkJulia)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/7 "2020-06-05T15:21:18Z")

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Sorry to hear that - please upload the associated console logs and I can have somebody look in to this.

1. Press the Windows key + R
2. Enter %appdata% within the search input and select ‘OK’
3. Navigate to AppData\Roaming\Fatshark\Vermintide 2\console\_logs

Thank you in advance.

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**Author:** ![AntiLoop](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antiloop/32/13682_2.png) [@AntiLoop](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AntiLoop)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/9 "2020-06-05T18:38:25Z")

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happend again

 ![Skærmbillede (93)](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/5/0/5066681d0b54f3a11b9706096593f513c7f2130c.jpeg)

I have played some 7 or 8 deeds today which has all been defeats due to broken connection. The latest consol log is from yesterday. no logs from today.

What am I to do here? the game crashes constantly.  
I have tried to play from my seconday machine but it’s the same. crash crash crash.

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**Author:** ![EnragedFountain](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/enragedfountain/32/21124_2.png) [@EnragedFountain](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/EnragedFountain)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/10 "2020-06-05T19:08:51Z")

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> [@AntiLoop](#):
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> The latest consol log is from yesterday. no logs from today.

Perhaps those could still be helpful since you’ve had these issues for the last three days?

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**Author:** ![AntiLoop](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antiloop/32/13682_2.png) [@AntiLoop](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AntiLoop)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/11 "2020-06-05T19:22:22Z")

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It doesnt look like a get console logs for defeated deeds only regular missions.

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**Author:** ![freqlectic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/freqlectic/32/19312_2.png) [@freqlectic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/freqlectic)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/12 "2020-06-06T02:56:34Z")

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The console log is tied to the session. If you quit or crash a new log will be created the next time you launch a game.

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**Author:** ![hollerbach](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/hollerbach/32/19870_2.png) [@hollerbach](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/hollerbach)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/13 "2020-06-09T07:12:47Z")

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Probably related to: ["Deed owner left game" error message - thing is, I am playing solo, and am the host and the deed owner](http://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deed-owner-left-game-error-message-thing-is-i-am-playing-solo-and-am-the-host-and-the-deed-owner/38808/4)

I get this issue from time to time even if there are no Steam server issues.

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**Author:** ![JayJay](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jayjay/32/19210_2.png) [@JayJay](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/JayJay)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/14 "2020-06-09T07:38:47Z")

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Yeah, like freqlectic said. As soon as you start the game a log will be created, it ends when the game (for whatever reason) gets terminated.  
Unless you post the session logs in question not much can be done about your situation.

> [@hollerbach](#):
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> I get this issue from time to time even if there are no Steam server issues.

I thought it might have something to do with ISP’s being a bit overwhelmed with high usage due to the current situation and a lot more people using high bandwidth tasks (like Netflix), so there might be microstutters here and there (but i by no means have an idea if that’s actually what could/would happen).

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**Author:** ![freqlectic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/freqlectic/32/19312_2.png) [@freqlectic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/freqlectic)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/15 "2020-06-09T13:21:27Z")

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> [@hollerbach](#):
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> Probably related to: [“Deed owner left game” error message - thing is, I am playing solo, and am the host and the deed owner](http://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/deed-owner-left-game-error-message-thing-is-i-am-playing-solo-and-am-the-host-and-the-deed-owner/38808/4)

This is a general bug telling you that a player has left the game. If it’s the deed owner it specifies that the deed owner left. I haven’t experienced OPs issue during deeds or during normal qp, but I do experience the player has left the game bug pretty much every session.

If you want to replicate it reliably you host a game, get a few players in your lobby and then disband the lobby. The players that were in the lobby when you disbanded will keep being part of a console prompt saying “player x has joined the game” shortly followed by “player x has left the game” at every start and finish of a map. It stays like that for the rest of the session.

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**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/3/1/319a2f41b73f03a4d9360defbe43058888a33c8c.png) [@system](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/defeat-with-all-players-alive/39557/16 "2020-06-16T13:21:33Z")

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