# Dear Fatshark - Crafting **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 21, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610 "2023-11-21T01:45:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![vJaeger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/6f9a4e/32.png) [@vJaeger](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/vJaeger)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/21 "2023-11-21T02:53:58Z")
Appreciate it. Simply posted my experience of the game. I was enjoying the game but how bad my crafting experience was, has led to me quitting, again. Hope it gets better. ---
**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 2:57am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/22 "2023-11-21T02:57:39Z")
It’s not the customer’s/player’s job to offer solutions. The lack of suggestions does not lessen the impact or validity of criticism or feedback. Maybe you should look at it the other way, you shouldn’t get tired of different people all continuously making the same criticisms/feedback/complaints, but why they continue to make them and why aren’t you tired of the devs not doing anything about it? ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/23 "2023-11-21T03:00:11Z")
Sure, but this is a discussion, not a feedback post. It is not the customer’s job to return carts to the corrals at stores when you load your things into your vehicle, yet we do it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/24 "2023-11-21T03:02:04Z")
Bravo, that there is a level of pedantry that is worthy of the Creative Assembly moderation team. ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/25 "2023-11-21T03:03:41Z")
> [@zaygr](#): > > but why they continue to make them and why aren’t you tired of the devs not doing anything about it? I literally said I agree? When did I EVER say I am satisfied with the developers’ actions? ---
**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/26 "2023-11-21T03:05:35Z")
You indirectly do so when you (even unintentionally) try to belittle someone’s feedback by calling it crying or disregarding it by saying it’s posted in the wrong place. I’m just pointing out how your actions can look to other people. ---
**Author:** ![Rainman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Rainman](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Rainman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/27 "2023-11-21T03:08:14Z")
Oh, the audacity of somebody else making an opinion when you already have your own thread up about it. Sure, go ahead and tell other people to shut up because your thread is more important. I won’t stop you. ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/28 "2023-11-21T03:09:50Z")
Naw I never said shut up. I actually said there are better places to say you don’t like the state of crafting. ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/29 "2023-11-21T03:10:12Z")
Cope. ---
**Author:** ![Rainman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Rainman](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Rainman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/30 "2023-11-21T03:11:50Z")
You didn’t. > [@Shining\_Darkness](#): > > You know I actually have an entire thread about crafting? No need to start one just to cry about it while offering zero suggestions on how to fix it. That’s what you said. I don’t see anything about telling them to add their opinion to an already existing thread. Also, why do you even care if they make a new thread about it? it’s free real estate. Brosgw can just add them to the wall anyways. ---
**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/31 "2023-11-21T03:12:20Z")
You could have, I dunno, just gone, “You should post this in the Gameplay Feedback forum,” but instead you just had to come out swinging calling it crying and telling people to not post the same opinion in a new thread because you have a thread up. How is anyone else meant to take that except negatively? ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/32 "2023-11-21T03:18:54Z")
You and this other guy seem to read into what I say yet you only find negative things (which I get). When I then say something that could be taken away from what I said (you know implied statements, you two seem to like those), you say “nuh huh, that isn’t what you said.” If I don’t get to say what my implied statements were, you don’t get to accuse me of things I never said. I mean, you don’t like hypocrites right? Pot, meet kettle. ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/33 "2023-11-21T03:22:00Z")
Yes, yes I could have. But what was it is said? > [@Shining\_Darkness](#): > > Being frustrated is valid Being frustrated is valid? Well, I’m sure you can guess what I am towards this kind of topic. ---
**Author:** ![Rainman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Rainman](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Rainman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/34 "2023-11-21T03:22:20Z")
> [@Shining\_Darkness](#): > > When I then say something that could be taken away from what I said (you know implied statements, you two seem to like those), you say “nuh huh, that isn’t what you said.” yah, that’s why quotes exist. That’s why I _quoted_ you. As _proof_. It’s not hearsay if you’re _quoted in writing_. ---
**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/35 "2023-11-21T03:26:41Z")
Yes, it’s great you said that, but that doesn’t really justify your first reply. It’s kind of a “actions speak louder than words” kinda thing going on here. ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/36 "2023-11-21T03:31:03Z")
Okay. > [@Rainman](#): > > Sure, go ahead and tell other people to shut up because your thread is more important. This is something you say I am doing. I am not. > [@Rainman](#): > > telling somebody they can’t make a thread complaining about the crafting system This is something you say I am doing. I am not. > [@Rainman](#): > > He has his opinion, and stated his reasons why it feels bad to him. He doesn’t need to offer ways to make it better for his opinion to be valid or not. You don’t need to police that. And you don’t need to complain about people complaining. Hypocrisy So… quote for me where I said he can’t make this post, where I said shut up, where I said his opinion wasn’t valid. I’ll wait. (and no, this comment obviously doesn’t count because I am expressly not saying any of that to him). ---
**Author:** ![Rainman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Rainman](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Rainman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/37 "2023-11-21T03:35:18Z")
> [@Shining\_Darkness](#): > > You can read. I already did. You can re-read everything. ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/38 "2023-11-21T03:38:01Z")
It wasn’t an attempt to justify anything. I said what I said and I meant what I meant, I’ve no intention of taking any of it back. If you want to read into things, or whatever else you intend to do, cool. Go for it. I actually welcome the feedback because I suck at talking to people, obviously. I mean _your_ feedback I welcome, not that other guy. That other guy seems to have taken things personal given his initial comments towards me. ---
**Author:** ![Shining\_Darkness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Shining\_Darkness](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Shining_Darkness)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/39 "2023-11-21T03:38:48Z")
No. You didn’t. You accused me of things. But I never said any of those things so I’m gonna need you to point out exactly where I said those words. ---
**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dear-fatshark-crafting/87610/40 "2023-11-21T03:38:55Z")
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