They are not weak man 
, other classes are just way too strong rn especially psyker. I just got back in the game after a few month break, skilled psykers and hivescums are absolutely turning auric maels into a cakewalk. Not to mention scarier gaze gs psyker puts zealot melee dmg to shame, i was playing relic zealot expecting to top the melee dmg as usual turns out AM NOT HIM the gs psyker blew my numba lmaoo.
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yep, and people got pampered to the point of wanting the same low effort gratification on all classes rather than put in the works .
personally Iām happy the way āthings areā right now, knowing the clutch was on me and not the numbers when playing my oggy(since beta)
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Yeah i think ogryn is largely balanced rn and doesnt need any buffs aside maybe from twinlink stubber and frag bomb buffs. Speaking of frag bomb none thought that blitz was weak before veteran started spamming kraks and hivescum beefed up rocket launcher.
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āFatshark should fix Havoc in order to stop it from continuing to hold the rest of Darktideās balancing hostage with every factor of the big picture in careful consideration!ā 
āFatshark should allow the cycle of powercreep to continue forever by giving in to CERTAIN Playersā knee-jerk reactions and buffing everything into the stratosphere in order to make everything compete with how insanely OP Psykers and Veterans are right now!ā 
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maybe if fatshark would finally decide to dial various (failed) stuff back, even those would regain their use as side effect.
though thatās certainly not going to go well with the āonly buffā crowd but then again I already said my one time refund 
bye auf Wiedersehen approach if I had a say in the matter 
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Comparison is the thief of joy. But so is bad balance, so people come to complain that they donāt feel like they get to play any Darktide in games full of those lobbies. Fat Shark will probably come back and buff Scrierās Gaze instead. This is the cycle.
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I agree with the sentiment that Twink-Linked (
) Gun Lugger is a bit weak right now, although I still love to use that as my Build in Aurics.
Exactly! Because it wasnāt, not by the standards of the time. Heck, suggesting that āFrag Bomb needs more Chargesā prior to the buffs seen to Krak Grenades and Missile Launchers probably wouldāve gotten one laughed off of these Forums. If only we knewā¦
Iām in favour of nerfing Veteranās Krak Grenades and Hive Scumās Missile Launchers, not buffing Ogrynās Frag Bombs. Thatās my stance. No more, no f*cking more.
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If anyone wonder why some folks think ogryn is weak.
Also his anoying and toxic friend do same thing after ogryn rework.
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I usually agree with Mr.E takes but this aint of em, i remember him asking for nerfs to ogryn kit cause his rework was too strong but now his asking for buffs to the nerfs ??? None of this matters if fatshark keeps power creeping everything we will just keep complaining that x class needs more rework.
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Oh wow, another nerf cultist. Youāre in the right place.
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Just throwing my 2 cents like I did in 2 other posts on same topic.
Is not that ogryn is weak or anything else is ābrokenā or āopā.
Ogryn has 1 valid playstyle for havoc which is taunt bot/aggro hoarding. And no I donāt care how you/friends can play with grey weapons and no talents true duo a h40 rotten armour gas blight, thatās not how 99% of the community plays. And thatās what player nerfs/enemy buffs did to balance and variation btw.
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those with a premade as default tend to forget (and iām speculating here since I donāt have any raw numbers)
quite alot of players tend to
a) not wanting to deal with others on that level
in the first place
and
b) still prefer to be the writer of their own script
as in I play however dafuq I want, if it works, it works.
havoc & premade has this āroleā of a character tagged onto like a bad al bundy shotgun wedding.
and at the end of the day, everyoneās miserable to some degree.
darktide plays best when the others steer a ruckus but the whole crap can be salvaged by a skilled player himself.
so char bad cause role not fulfilled is bs in my book when up until havoc one could play ogryn as if the others werenāt even there to begin with.
higher havocs due to number cheapsht, yeah sure ogryn does ālessā by his talents, shouldnāt be no issue though if a proficient player still brings his 25%, aint a job application, go suck my 
for a resume. 
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Uffaā¦ che palle.
Please donāt balance the rest of Darktide around Havoc. Please just fix Havoc instead. Iām trying to help you, you poor souls.
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Are you refereeing to me ? cause am all for buffing infantry lasguns, heavy swords and thunderhammer. They used to perform fine but then fatshark upped the armor spawn cause they were being trivialized by some weapons. I dont feel like writing a whole paragraph so i will say this am all for nerfing both players and enemies, god knows i cant afford another cpu in the current economy and i love darktide but its the only game stressing my cpu out with all ridiculous clown trains on my screen :).
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Truth is I do want parts of Ogryn changed regardless of Havoc. I dunno, balance is out of control, some things only feel bad because of the current power of elites, and then thereās the twin-linked stubber thatās always been bad
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I agree. But Iām not gonna sit around and let these āb-but Havocā excuses fly unhindered. That kind of mindset leads to these āone step forward, two steps backā balancing outcomes. Itās so myopic to a point that it isnāt even funny.
Look at what happened when Fatshark gave those sweeping buffs to Flak and Carapace instead of justā¦ nerfing the outliers to justify a reduction in Carapace spawns and then fixing specific Havoc Modifiers as needed. There are so many factors that CERTAIN Players justā¦ arenāt taking into account.
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Vet should be more gun oriented but less grenade spam happy. Infiltrate should be removed in favour of a new combat ability
Iād say Zealot actually needs a very slight dmg buff (rework unseen Blade into being a node that increases weakspot dmg)
Psyker just.. yea that class needs a lot of changes xdddd
Scum just needs pickpocket nerfed into the floor
Arbites is fine
Ogryn just needs batter reverted since the crusher and mauler hp buff (and a rework on the right side for it t actually do something)
Weakness of mind? Boredom? Cheap streamer controversy used for clicks?
My personal opinion: some people perceive everything through OUTLIERS which require a nerf, instead of being used as a reference point to argue for more buffs.
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Well I mean more how folks can be braindead by mindless folowing and paroting what some content creator say about something.
and more likely than not they skew their views inside a premade.
premade
health bar mod
area of effect
maybe spidey sense for āgood measureā
= 0 credibility on either takes or matches played.
do with randoms/no mods/no comms, then we talk
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