# Crafting is still bad Fatshark **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [October 13, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188 "2023-10-13T15:15:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![objc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7cd45c/32.png) [@objc](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/objc)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/1 "2023-10-13T15:15:59Z")
I came back after patch #13. The class changes are great, lots of fun there. Then I go to attempt to make a weapon I want to fit a specific playstyle and I am stopped my my tracks by RNG blessings, RNG perks and the crafting locks. Can you just remove the locks please? ---
**Author:** ![ToLazy4Name](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tolazy4name/32/39088_2.png) [@ToLazy4Name](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ToLazy4Name)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/2 "2023-10-13T15:17:43Z")
like many things, VT2 did it better…if only Fatshark would see reason…impossible… ---
**Author:** ![URANUS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e99b99/32.png) [@URANUS](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URANUS)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/3 "2023-10-13T21:10:11Z")
Gamers always complain about RNG. Then, if devs remove RNG complains evaporate… with gamers. Current system is great. Believe me, you do not want to finish this game. You want to chase this godroll, even if it’s painfull and dissapointing. You can argue, but deep inside, you know Im right. ---
**Author:** ![ToLazy4Name](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tolazy4name/32/39088_2.png) [@ToLazy4Name](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ToLazy4Name)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/4 "2023-10-13T21:11:24Z")
no ---
**Author:** ![URANUS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e99b99/32.png) [@URANUS](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URANUS)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/5 "2023-10-13T21:13:15Z")
Whispers\* You know Im riiight ---
**Author:** ![ToLazy4Name](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tolazy4name/32/39088_2.png) [@ToLazy4Name](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ToLazy4Name)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/6 "2023-10-13T21:18:20Z")
no because I haven’t crafted anything other than a DLC weapon or two in like 700 hours on VT2, getting all of the stuff I wanted didn’t affect my desire to play at all, if anything it made me want to play more since now I have all the cool stuff I want ---
**Author:** ![URANUS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e99b99/32.png) [@URANUS](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URANUS)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/7 "2023-10-13T21:20:10Z")
You know what? I don’t believe you. Either crafting was added after those 700 hours Or you got all you wanted without crafting before it was added. ---
**Author:** ![ToLazy4Name](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tolazy4name/32/39088_2.png) [@ToLazy4Name](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ToLazy4Name)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/8 "2023-10-13T21:21:07Z")
crafting was in from the beginning if I recall so idk what you want from me strange creature, being a slave to RNG is not enjoyable to me and getting everything I want is enjoyable to me ---
**Author:** ![URANUS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e99b99/32.png) [@URANUS](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URANUS)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/9 "2023-10-13T21:28:06Z")
You sound like uberplayer. You know how this game should be. Why won’t you go work in Fatshark as a Game Designer? ---
**Author:** ![ToLazy4Name](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tolazy4name/32/39088_2.png) [@ToLazy4Name](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ToLazy4Name)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/10 "2023-10-13T21:33:47Z")
I do not associate with Swedish “people” ---
**Author:** ![URANUS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e99b99/32.png) [@URANUS](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URANUS)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/11 "2023-10-13T21:39:36Z")
Such a waist to Fatshark. So you planning to goving out your ideas here for free? ---
**Author:** ![ToLazy4Name](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tolazy4name/32/39088_2.png) [@ToLazy4Name](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ToLazy4Name)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/12 "2023-10-13T21:41:02Z")
yes I am a generous ideas guy I do not keep my ideas behind a paywall, Fatshark is FREE to use my FREE ideas to make their game good like VT2 as opposed to bad like DT ---
**Author:** ![aroth68](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/aroth68/32/33737_2.png) [@aroth68](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/aroth68)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/13 "2023-10-13T21:53:31Z")
After the last patch I came back to the character wallets being fused together ; for a very brief time I had FUN because I spent my boatload of crafting mats very freely without worrying about collecting everything during missions, completing contracts etc. Now I’ve run out. And I’m sad because switching up and upgrading my weapons feels like a chore again. I guess that’s bye-bye for me for another 4 months ! See ya when the Vet is fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Warrak](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/warrak/32/75239_2.png) [@Warrak](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Warrak)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/14 "2023-10-15T15:08:21Z")
Goodbye aroth68 ---
**Author:** ![MattOMat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f17d59/32.png) [@MattOMat](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MattOMat)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/15 "2023-10-17T12:11:40Z")
100% false Vt2 crafting system as way less RNG (you can even get red weapon with 100% stat allocation and choose the blessing ) and ppl still play it right now … Deep Rock galactik “crafting” has 80% of it as a skill tree with 0 rng and it feel great and DRG is regularly commended as the best game is the genra. ---
**Author:** ![URANUS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e99b99/32.png) [@URANUS](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URANUS)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/16 "2023-10-18T09:42:27Z")
Bye See you in a few days grinding your a55 off. ---
**Author:** ![URANUS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e99b99/32.png) [@URANUS](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URANUS)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/17 "2023-10-18T09:49:16Z")
I just do not know what are you talking about. Spent about 1k hours on Destiny 2 and about 4k on Warframe. Darktide craft system is more interesting and less demanding than either of these games. In Darktide, after about 400 hours I have almost everything I need, but still is looking for new gear with interest. Idk how to make loot system better. There are always group of gamers that wanna have all best gear day one. Idk what is the point in that. Say thx Darktide has no artificial time gates for loot. At least not that many as other games. ---
**Author:** ![MattOMat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f17d59/32.png) [@MattOMat](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MattOMat)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/18 "2023-10-18T09:51:33Z")
bc worst system exist don’t mean this one is good … ---
**Author:** ![anon61080228](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@anon61080228](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/anon61080228)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/19 "2023-10-18T10:13:16Z")
> [@URANUS](#): > > Destiny 2 and about 4k on Warframe. That’s why your opinion should be rejected, Destiny 2 is mmo, Warframe is kinda mmo-ish grindfest. Your point of view is deformed. Darktide is just a regular horde shooter, there are no side activities or types of missions, there are no daily quests or faction reputation, legendary armor sets and no end game that closed behind gear lvl. > In Darktide, after about 400 hours I have almost everything I need I spend like 1000 hours i think, to get several builds for every class. But i’m tide games veteran and my winrate is kinda high so no problems with materials/dockets. Regular people who can’t play a lot or can’t faceroll highest difficulties will touch such basic things like playble weapons after a few years maybe if they play all classes. Not even saying that balance changes can brick your gear. So Fatshark should either convert DT to Destiny clone, or should put something different behind grinding, like cosmetics. RNG shouldn’t be such tedious for basic things like non-unique weapons. ---
**Author:** ![URANUS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e99b99/32.png) [@URANUS](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URANUS)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188/20 "2023-10-18T10:25:47Z")
Your opinion should be rejected, cuz you think that somebody’s opinion should be rejected. Destiny 2, Warframe and Darktide are all games. Games are used to entertain ppl. You can collect resources in any of these games. You can be efficient even with gray weapon in Darktide. If you are not efficient and has no time for grind, play lower levels. Why it is always nolifers who complain about “Regular people”???. Why regular people do not complain for themselves? I know why. Cuz they are ok with this system. The only people who are not ok are those who play that game 8 hours a day. Try to play something else maybe? I guarantee you, you won’t be missed by this community. [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/crafting-is-still-bad-fatshark/84188.md?page=2)