# Clarifying the Asia Serv perspective on Havoc 40 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 20, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988 "2026-03-20T18:25:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Brad9191](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brad9191/32/110216_2.png) [@Brad9191](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Brad9191)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/62 "2026-03-22T22:17:46Z")
They do cheat, dude. They sell cheaty mods for sale, that’s literally just reality… There was even a massive post on it. It’s hilarious af. Yes, I’m clearly the delusional one. Also, why would you play in NA servers with high ping? That’s literally stupid in the first place, lmao. Yeah, we’re clearly arguing with a very smart individual here. ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/63 "2026-03-22T22:18:24Z")
> [@Cazius](#): > > Same, well when I was in NewYork, thousands hour playtime, western players left me with some stereotypes at that time. I see you can’t read ---
**Author:** ![Brad9191](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brad9191/32/110216_2.png) [@Brad9191](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Brad9191)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/64 "2026-03-22T22:21:28Z")
I see you edited that in you sneaky little liar. That wasn’t there in the first place, care to try again? Always sneaky little cheaters trying to get a 1+ up on people making great points. I see I’m dealing with a dishonest person here as well, typical behavior of CN players, eh. ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/65 "2026-03-22T22:23:15Z")
you really have trouble with reading, I don’t know what to say lol, that was 11hrs ago. ---
**Author:** ![Brad9191](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brad9191/32/110216_2.png) [@Brad9191](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Brad9191)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/66 "2026-03-22T22:24:17Z")
You can literally see the edit mark dude… Now you’re playing dumb because you’re caught red-handed in a lie. CN players man, I tell ya… Just go play some more cheaty mods. ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/67 "2026-03-22T22:26:34Z")
yes I edit 11 hrs ago with some good use of words, what’s in your brain man, I had stereotype for NA players, but not like you, you r worse lol. ---
**Author:** ![Brad9191](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brad9191/32/110216_2.png) [@Brad9191](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Brad9191)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/68 "2026-03-22T22:29:30Z")
i’M wOrSe… 🤪 Now, go enjoy your CN superiority servers my man, lmao. Imagine trying to be supercilious in PvE game, nonetheless. Super pathetic lol… It’s actual kind of mind bending. ---
**Author:** ![anon41016878](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@anon41016878](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/anon41016878)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/69 "2026-03-22T22:30:31Z")
To be entirely fair even EU players think NA players are scrubs. It’s a phenomenom across multiple competitive games. That said if China was full of powergamers and westerners in general were all bad, Europeans wouldn’t keep winning every international esports tournament in every competitive video game. ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/70 "2026-03-22T22:31:07Z")
![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/a/8/a88098e15b28217ec96183149391b7c5ce79afd6.jpeg) go get any treatment with your eyes, maybe more important with your brain ---
**Author:** ![Brad9191](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brad9191/32/110216_2.png) [@Brad9191](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Brad9191)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/71 "2026-03-22T22:33:11Z")
And? That top comment wasn’t there the last time I seen it, so you obviously edited it. Plus, sometimes when you edit on here it doesn’t show every single particular edit you do with a time stamp, because this site is buggy garbage. Thanks for not understanding this fact. You must be new here. ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/72 "2026-03-22T22:34:48Z")
> [@Brad9191](#): > > That top comment wasn’t there the last time I seen it, so you obviously edited it your mistake or your eye problem blame other’s ? lol, that’s how you live for life? ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/73 "2026-03-22T22:35:51Z")
To be serious, this is the first time I’ve met someone like you online, this is very uncommon ---
**Author:** ![Brad9191](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brad9191/32/110216_2.png) [@Brad9191](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Brad9191)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/74 "2026-03-22T22:36:00Z")
You really don’t understand how this forum works, huh? That’s your fault not mine. But of course, liars would obfuscate the truth like that. ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/75 "2026-03-22T22:37:48Z")
I hope someone saw my post before and help this guy get some better understanding Although I don’t have much hope for this ---
**Author:** ![Dizzy721](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dizzy721](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dizzy721)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/76 "2026-03-22T22:38:20Z")
Only edits that happen immediately after posting do not get the edit icon. 5 mins is the default. ---
**Author:** ![Brad9191](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brad9191/32/110216_2.png) [@Brad9191](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Brad9191)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/77 "2026-03-22T22:41:08Z")
I just don’t like egotistical people thinking they’re better on a PvE game, lmao. If you could only read what you’re typing in your original post, my god the way you come across. That’s like the pinnacle of pathetic thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Brad9191](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brad9191/32/110216_2.png) [@Brad9191](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Brad9191)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/78 "2026-03-22T22:42:34Z")
That’s correct… But sometimes when you keep on editing posts sometimes it never updates is my point here. ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/79 "2026-03-22T22:47:27Z")
Did you try to shift the topic？ Like I said I HAD some stereotype with westerns, because that time when I play in HK server, the fact is this > [@Cazius](#): > > After I returned to CN at the end of 2025, at the beginning, the number of high skill players was overwhelming compared to NA. But with the increasing number of cheaters appear in hk realm, I already giveup on that opinion. Unlike you, who have no thoughts and only mock others blindly, what I mean is that if anyone really wants to Teach FS about balance, it’s best to be a so-called ‘elite’ themselves. And it has been clearly stated above. > [@Cazius](#): > > I think if someone want to teach Fatshark balance and reject others’ opinions, then they need to easily **carry** in high difficulty without cheats. Not using cheats, or just “having fun” and leave all preassure to teammates in high difficulty. > > This can provide excellent proof of your understanding of the game, making your perspective on balance changes more reasonable For real, go see a doctor, physiologically or psychologically ---
**Author:** ![Cazius](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cazius/32/102296_2.png) [@Cazius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cazius)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/81 "2026-03-22T23:02:00Z")
See that’s how a stereotype generate. I only left a negative review for Fat Shark at the end of 2022 because the quality of the game at that time was definitely worth it, and it hasn’t changed in the following years. I have also read many comments, most of which are unsightly, but Fatshark doesn’t care at all, otherwise the balance would have followed the thoughts of CN players long ago. ---
**Author:** ![gpkgpk](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gpkgpk/32/119406_2.png) [@gpkgpk](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/gpkgpk)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2026, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988/83 "2026-03-22T23:18:23Z")
> [@anon41016878](#): > > That person is literally using flowery words to say “you are bad, we are good” and the “you” refers to a racial/geographical demographic he’s not a part of. If saying “you chinese people suck at the game” is racism or narrowminded, then this is too. At least the Steam neg review brigaders didn’t hide it behind soft language, they included such gems as “racist white ogryn trolls” when referring to westerners in their backlash against maybe possibly looking into perhaps balancing DS a bit. Sauce for the goose and all that. [Previous page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/clarifying-the-asia-serv-perspective-on-havoc-40/119988.md?page=5)