# Are Bardin's Dual Axes slower after the update?

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**Category:** Gameplay Feedback\
**Created:** [December 19, 2019, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522 "2019-12-19T11:03:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![SICKOMODE](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/sickomode/32/19750_2.png) [@SICKOMODE](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SICKOMODE)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/1 "2019-12-19T11:03:52Z")

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The Attack Speed is slower now ?

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**Author:** ![KaelusVonSestiaf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kaelusvonsestiaf/32/23688_2.png) [@KaelusVonSestiaf](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/KaelusVonSestiaf)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/2 "2019-12-19T17:38:00Z")

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I haven’t noticed as much, no. You sure you’re not just used to using the talent that gives 15% attack speed if both of your weapons are 1handed melee weapons and are no longer using it?

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**Author:** ![SICKOMODE](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/sickomode/32/19750_2.png) [@SICKOMODE](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SICKOMODE)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/3 "2019-12-19T18:37:43Z")

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What’s the name of the TAlent ?

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**Author:** ![Perteks](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/perteks/32/21276_2.png) [@Perteks](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Perteks)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/4 "2019-12-19T19:29:43Z")

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Oh wow you didnt get banned? I’m shocked with how much you just spam

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**Author:** ![SICKOMODE](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/sickomode/32/19750_2.png) [@SICKOMODE](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SICKOMODE)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/5 "2019-12-19T19:59:43Z")

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Dude what’s yo problem . just go do something else and don’t bother me , damn

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**Author:** ![KaelusVonSestiaf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kaelusvonsestiaf/32/23688_2.png) [@KaelusVonSestiaf](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/KaelusVonSestiaf)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/6 "2019-12-20T01:44:22Z")

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I believe it’s ‘A thousand cuts’. I think it’s the level 10 tier talent.

Be aware that the throwing axes do not count as 1 handed weapons, because they’re not a melee weapon, so if you have throwing axes equipped you won’t benefit from this talent. Nor from the two-handed version of the talent.

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**Author:** ![SICKOMODE](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/sickomode/32/19750_2.png) [@SICKOMODE](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SICKOMODE)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/7 "2019-12-20T12:47:17Z")

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> [@KaelusVonSestiaf](#):
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> ‘A thousand cuts’

Works for Dual Axes ? Right ?

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**Author:** ![KaelusVonSestiaf](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kaelusvonsestiaf/32/23688_2.png) [@KaelusVonSestiaf](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/KaelusVonSestiaf)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/8 "2019-12-20T13:05:36Z")

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Yup! Dual weapons (like dual axes or dual hammers) DO count as 1-handed weapons. Just, again, throwing axes don’t.

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**Author:** ![SICKOMODE](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/sickomode/32/19750_2.png) [@SICKOMODE](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SICKOMODE)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/are-bardins-dual-axes-slower-after-the-update/37522/9 "2019-12-20T13:13:19Z")

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Thx