Devs saying ‘we don’t like the way you play our game, try something else’ is the fastest way to lose players.
Vet needs its learning wheels ripped off so it can become a proper class. Delete gold toughness on vet!
The Plasma gun’s alternative fire ammo consumption has not been reduced. It is still the original 5-9, not the 1-8 stated in the update announcement.
What playstyle would be that? Golden toughness VoC spam, instead of active damage avoidance? If that’s the whole “playstyle”, may it rest in golden peace.
Both Chorus and VoC golden toughness spam were pretty unhealthy for the game before, and their uptime had to be limited. That hardly breaks veteran as a class or undermines its role.
Seeing how dodgeran is the best way to go about a melee vet, one has to wonder if any form of thinking was done before posting…
I have a confession to make. I’ve been solely using the VoC revive instead of the gold & man… I think I’m liking it even more so. It’s just unbelievably convenient, insta-reviving on a down. It’s just crazy clutch. Saved already countless games with that using it at the correct moments. Even did a three-in-one pick up as well. It’s amazing. This might be a bit of a bold statement, but this in my eyes is such a meta choice now after some testing. You can go back & fourth with the gold/revive or even have both & it’s great… It’s fking incredible. Even with the 5-second nerf to CDR it doesn’t matter when you have only the revive portion on because you’re waiting anyways until somebody does eventually go down, which isn’t too often, so your ULT is pretty much always up regardless. The extra time tacked on doesn’t even matter anymore with this loadout. If you’re surrounded you can still shout your way out of tough situations too & supress maybe some gunners, knock back groups or ragers, armoured enemies, etc, but you know what I mean. Not to mention getting your toughness instantly back in the process too. S+ Tier in my book… I would argue it’s just as good as the gold just in a slightly different manner. 
Edit: I hope the people that were complaining about this try it out. Because if you haven’t, you’re missing out, big time!
Darktide players finally being exposed to Mercenary Kruber:
If you are the last one standing on vet without gold toughness on havoc 40 than you would be that on whatever char you could choose. If you are so inept at the game then you can avoid most of the balance problems. I don’t think the people you targeted with your post will feel the same after trying the rev shout…
I’ve been using it and i hate that it works and i hate the dice roll the talent represents, nonetheless it does work disturbingly well.
Same but i was more moderate in my evaluation, because beside doing successful three-in-one pick up with a mere shout…i also had to do a three-in-one pick up!
And the convenience of the shout doing it for me merely highlighted the issue i have with the talent.
Of course not, be objective 
You can have a streak of games even with pubs where its just straight wasted talent point or a talent point with the most marginal impact.
A talent that has serious (and out of your control) potential to do absolutely nothing isn’t S+ tier!
Revive shout seems less situational than eg. For The Little Uns only lasting 10s and therefore not helping you rescue tied up players ever.
I just want to mention that you contribute next to nothing in this forum my man. You’re just an active troll, nothing more. Why not post something useful & yes, it is actually amazing. This bait isn’t even that great, make me believe it.
Have you even used it? Tried it out? Been using in since the patch & it’s even awesome in Havoc-40’s. People go down even more so & yet it saves the day, interesting, huh? But sure, the people that are complaining about this nerf are probably not skilled enough anyway for Havoc-40, thus btching about gold nerf, maybe they should try other avenues, hmm? Might be good for them not to rely on the gold crutch & p-p-practice.
Of course, it doesn’t help tied up players… the f are you talking about, dude? lol… That’s not the intended purpose of it. It’s at least there in your back pocket when you need it. Clutched so many goddamn games with it, it’s insane.
i do play vet here and there and ive been liking the revive a lot. i think some of these fellas are wrong about it but thats just me and im not even much of a vet player. ive watched the latest Khandones vet video and he saves that game a few times at least even in a Havoc 40 mind you.
revive shout is good, but I was talking about the ‘revive speed’ nodes. zealot and veteran have those active 24/7, while ogryn only gets it for 10s when someone goes down. since I guess it does give you +10% power and +25% TDR in addition to that effect, but revive speed affects a lot of actions not related to reviving that you don’t get to enjoy that buffed action speed with.
Ohh, okay that makes more sense. I just don’t think people realise that this stays up a lot longer is all I’m saying for when it’s needed. I mean, you can still use shout for other purposes, it’s just a different style of play to revive instant at a moment’s notice is all. Plus, you can still put revive speed on Vet’s curios, which I’d also recommend. If people aren’t putting revive speed on their curios, they’re doing it wrong in my view at least on higher difficulties that is. Unless they have some specialty build that requires other curios rather. But that’s rare anyway. Another aspect that people should know is that obviously when you revive there’s a lot of risk of you being downed as well helping people up & this updated feature eliminates that risk too. Just to keep that in mind as well. So, you essentially have unlimited revives with no risks or negative effects, which is a gamechanger, IMO.
Hey I never bitched about it. Just pointing out your post might not have the effect you want.
I would like gold toughness to be completely removed from vet
I have an idea… Maybe the people that complain about this should have one of their buddies as revive Vet, so that they can pick their @ss up in 40’s when they don’t crutch on that gold & see how effective it can really be. You know, for the non-believers in it. 
I actually watched this last night, coincidentally. Yeah, he saves the game at least a few times from his teammate’s mistakes with that insta-revive & even through walls, nonetheless. But yeah, the node is really, really bad & nobody should even be bothered to use it of course. It just sucks total b@lls.
I agree! Tbh, the moment I realise a vet with VoC revive is in my team I do not even bother to try to help team mates that are down… the vet can do it so easily and quickly everyone else trying it is just a waste of time. That’s how effective this ability is.