# Announcing Nightmares & Visions - Releasing March 25, 2025 **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** devpost, patchnotes\ **Created:** [March 5, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592 "2025-03-05T17:59:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Jado](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jado/32/120644_2.png) [@Jado](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Jado)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/161 "2025-03-07T11:02:15Z")
> [@Latifa](#): > > Four. 25.03 is the release day of Keeling Floor 3, it’s basically a brilliant idea, if and as soon as KF3 is available I’ll go there, for all my love of the game I’ll opt for the new co-op with friends. * * * You’ll be disappointed by Killing Floor 3… ---
**Author:** ![Jado](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jado/32/120644_2.png) [@Jado](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Jado)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/162 "2025-03-07T11:06:50Z")
> [@Khorne\_Dawg](#): > > This sounds awesome! I’ll be sure to give it a go. Well, except for maybe the reward because most of these characters are a bit stale. Here’s hoping that these “Secrets” make them more compelling or something. It’d be REALLY funny if one of them just says that Swagger is John Grammaticus. What about some cool Psykhanium-themed Frames as well like the ones that we got in Vermintide 2’s Fortunes of War, which has clearly inspired this new Mode? 😋 * * * But we just dropped the “storyline” we were on, I guess? Atoma’s war appears to be stalled. Instead of dealing with Wolfer and the Cult, we’re having fun on the MS with mama Sefoni. Time to send in the Astartes so that we can make some god damn progress. ---
**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/163 "2025-03-07T11:07:45Z")
> [@Jado](#): > > How Funcom could fumble age of conan, the only mmo i genuinely loved. wooh geesh that was one messed up start. still remember the missing voice lines outta tortage or the totally empty pyramid that was supposed to be a starting dungeon. art/style/combat waaaay better than anything at the time but for the life of them they couldnt bring it together. joked about that ellingson(?)-guy doing the release propaganda being saddams press man :“everythings fine, we are pushing them americans back” while hearing shots in the background 😅 a whole pot of good ideas doesnt necessarily translate into a good game 🤷 at least conan exiles heavily modded is a good 100 hours every now and again 👍 ---
**Author:** ![FatsharkStrawHat](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/fatsharkstrawhat/32/85671_2.png) [@FatsharkStrawHat](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/FatsharkStrawHat)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/164 "2025-03-07T11:12:14Z")
If we ended up posting in one place and linking out, it would most likely be our website (awful formatting hehe) because it’s more neutral or Steam (awful formatting 🤮 ) because it’s more ubiquitous. And then y’all would yell at me for not posting here 🤭 Some parts of the player base prefer different platforms! Maybe it’ll change one day, though. P.S. I fixed the issue from earlier and it’s working again. I’ll try to post earlier in the afternoon for y’all. ---
**Author:** ![Riku](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/riku/32/118330_2.png) [@Riku](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Riku)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/165 "2025-03-07T11:31:47Z")
> [@FatsharkStrawHat](#): > > And then y’all would yell at me for not posting here 🤭 ![](https://media.tenor.com/2Kt8xl0OVKEAAAAM/alvin-and-the-chipmunks-what.gif "Alvin And The Chipmunks What GIF - Alvin And The Chipmunks What I Would Never Do...") ---
**Author:** ![Khorne\_Dawg](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/khorne_dawg/32/111464_2.png) [@Khorne\_Dawg](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Khorne_Dawg)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/166 "2025-03-07T11:35:48Z")
> [@Jado](#): > > Time to send in the Astartes so that we can make some god damn progress. 🤢🤮 ---
**Author:** ![Jado](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jado/32/120644_2.png) [@Jado](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Jado)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/167 "2025-03-07T11:41:17Z")
Search your feelings, you know it to be true! * * * ![17413476528532514076866759980172](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/f/f/ff6be8215b8c97d24c5aee949e33ce4cc6b46c5b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Lt.DavinFelth](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/lt.davinfelth/32/63279_2.png) [@Lt.DavinFelth](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Lt.DavinFelth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/168 "2025-03-07T12:00:42Z")
![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/1/1/1122d6850c4ea082c668a57be37db2f0b7b09a6f.jpeg) _“In our book the ideal weapons for fighting a space marine were a rangefinder, vox unit, and nearby artillery battery and if that wasn’t available a Leman Russ might do in a pinch. We were not going to try and fight this traitor marine with nothing but lasguns unless we had to.”_ AGP - “Heretic Purging” ---
**Author:** ![Hextechnician](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/hextechnician/32/79675_2.png) [@Hextechnician](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Hextechnician)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/169 "2025-03-07T12:28:11Z")
I appreciate having multiple outlets to view it. Never know when work will block certain sites. ---
**Author:** ![Chaos791](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/chaos791/32/96098_2.png) [@Chaos791](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Chaos791)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/170 "2025-03-07T12:44:10Z")
I have a friend who think and felt the same way about Conan Exiles when it goes out of Early Access ; the universe is well represented, the survival mechanics well done, the construction was one of the most advanced at that time and climbing everything was great and reuse on other survival games like Palworld. But the part he cannot forget nor forgive was the combat who was clanky as hell (also the story but let’s be honest not many survival games manage to do that in the first place !). For a Conan fan such as him he view it like heresy and since he is also a big fan of Dune he fear the same … ---
**Author:** ![XeroShinobi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/xeroshinobi/32/58043_2.png) [@XeroShinobi](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/XeroShinobi)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/171 "2025-03-07T12:58:15Z")
> [@Rvl](#): > > 1% of players can make any build work in Havoc… when they have thousands of hours… and when they’re playing in a premade of high-skilled friends with voice comms. 1% of players can make any build work in Havoc in premades and with a significantly reduced success rate. This is coming from someone who generally likes Havoc but simply hates the party finder system. There is nobody good enough to make any build work on any Havoc 40 while playing with randoms most of the time. They don’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![DornIvanotic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dornivanotic/32/84585_2.png) [@DornIvanotic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DornIvanotic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/172 "2025-03-07T13:48:22Z")
Fact of the matter is that havoc does not challenge the top percentile of players enough (easier in a four stack in pubs than duo I-II-V-E-G) for them to have less than a 70% minimum win% ---
**Author:** ![harlekein](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/harlekein/32/90957_2.png) [@harlekein](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/harlekein)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/173 "2025-03-07T13:53:09Z")
The fix would be to allow players to select the modifiers and the top 1% can go nuts. The only rewards should be insignia, frame or title. I don’t understand why there needs to be an entire game mode for that tiny fraction of the player base. ---
**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/174 "2025-03-07T14:06:01Z")
> [@Hanu](#): > > I really don’t understand the hate for havoc. It’s the only reason why I started playing again. Aurics are really easy and you can use any build on it and it works. It’s okay for practice and quick play but not something that keeps the interest of higher level players. See, that’s the experience of less than 10% of players. It is _not_ the experience of the vast majority of people. If you’re good enough to clear multiple level 40 Havocs playing with randoms, you’re one of those people who should be doing speedrunning competitions or something because that’s utterly nuts. ---
**Author:** ![FatsharkStrawHat](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/fatsharkstrawhat/32/85671_2.png) [@FatsharkStrawHat](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/FatsharkStrawHat)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/175 "2025-03-07T14:19:09Z")
The first dev blog is out! > [@Nightmares & Visions - Early Balance Look - Dev Blog Pt. 1](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/nightmares-visions-early-balance-look-dev-blog-pt-1/105587): > > Hey Everyone, Ahead of our Unlocked and Loaded update last year (aka Itemization), we released the intended balancing changes ahead of the rest of the patch notes. The idea was to give players a sneak peek ahead of time, and to allow the players time to give their feedback. We’re doing it again. [[Warhammer 40,000: Darktide - Nightmares & Visions Update | Teaser Trailer] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ota9aM8ePr4) For Nightmares and Visions, we will be including a rework to the Ogryn Talent Tree and a series of Weapon balanc… It links to the other parts, too. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![DrHammer](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/drhammer/32/93943_2.png) [@DrHammer](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DrHammer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/176 "2025-03-07T16:32:34Z")
Rolling Steel should be a Special Assignment. ---
**Author:** ![XeroShinobi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/xeroshinobi/32/58043_2.png) [@XeroShinobi](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/XeroShinobi)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/177 "2025-03-07T19:02:21Z")
With good builds. Start playing garbage and stop being selective with who you let in. Watch that success rate plummet. You stop being selective with who you let in, and you’re not too far off from soloing, which even with the best builds, nobody can do consistently. Most solo attempts fail, end of story. And no, a good premade duo is easier than just letting in anybody in a 4 stack. It’s not even close. ---
**Author:** ![DornIvanotic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dornivanotic/32/84585_2.png) [@DornIvanotic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DornIvanotic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/178 "2025-03-07T19:06:16Z")
My 70% win rate is with pubs. ---
**Author:** ![XeroShinobi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/xeroshinobi/32/58043_2.png) [@XeroShinobi](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/XeroShinobi)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/179 "2025-03-07T19:07:10Z")
With low tier builds, and not waiting for only Havoc 40 players with high true level? If you’re claiming that, you pulled that 70% directly out of your ass. Stream it, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![DornIvanotic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dornivanotic/32/84585_2.png) [@DornIvanotic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DornIvanotic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/announcing-nightmares-visions-releasing-march-25-2025/105592/180 "2025-03-07T19:08:46Z")
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