280 hours to get a single perfect 380 modifier weapon

lack of logical thinking has become a new pandemic

So I’m gonna be real here. No one needs a perfect 380 item. Just get a well rolled item with the lowest rolled stat being the least relevant for the weapon. I’m not saying the current item system is finished and working fine because it’s not, but perfect items aren’t necessary at all and an extra 5% or less stat difference for hundreds of extra hours of grinding seems like a dumb application of time.

Basically just play the game to play the game for now or take a break. Updates are still coming out to add more stuff anyways.

No one needs a 380 item in the same way the itemisation system doesn’t need to layer 8+ levels of RNG just to get even decent items. If people can’t get decent or near top items in 300 hours of play consistently, there is something wrong with the system.

Also you’re describing gambler’s fallacy. There is nothing in the game to moderate the RNG to let you "win"after x amount of time losing. Statistically you have a high chance of getting something after 300 hours, but pure RNG is pure RNG. You didn’t work for it, you can’t grind for it, you can’t do anything to affect it but to just wait for a timer to run out and roll again.

You don’t have to be a V2 vet to want this rubbish system changed. It’s worse than V2’s system, it’s worse than any other looter shooter out there. It’s worse than Diablo 2. It’s about on par to mobile gacha games that have you roll equipment, but even most of them are better because they usually have bad luck protection or pity systems.

That’s the other thing with RNG, just because one person is lucky doesn’t mean everyone will be, especially in pure RNG systems.

Making grind stretch statistically into years to pad a lack of content or other systems is universally bad game design that shouldn’t be needed if the core gameplay is good. And that’s the shame, the core for DT is a lot of fun, but the itemisation systems sucks the fun out of the rest because nothing you do playing the actual game affects what you get. It’s all RNG. Even grindfests like Lost Ark or Diablo has ways to either target what you want to work towards or allow you to perform actions that give you a greater chance in getting what you want. DT has none of that.

Not only you have absolutely zero idea how statistic or probability works, but I guess both are too advanced for you, but you are also being rude because you have zero counter arguments for my logical arguments. Best you could do is being rude screaming “shut up!” and add bunch of emojis like 5 year old? This ain’t tik tok. Do you think anyone at this point will treat you like mature discussion participant instead of spoiled brat? I also suggest you to google “sunk cost effect” , “gambler’s fallacy” and “strawman argument” as you may find some mirror reflection here. Also you didn’t bring any substantive arguments to dismiss anything I have written, which you know are just base facts about game you can’t deny.

So take a deep breath, touch some grass and get back to discussion once you are mature enough.

imagine defending fatshark and raging on people who figured out its aprox 3k hours to get one single random perfect weapon with the modifiers you want.

Bingo. Very good summary. That’s what people who are in denial need to realize.

Another great point about what I was also saying many times: it’s to obscure lack of content. That’s what it is. Lazy but well tested technique in mobile games.

Playing the game for fun because the mechanics are good works, but what makes that repeatable is build variation at high difficulty.

Build variation at high difficulty is impossible in the current crafting system.

I can only play tier 5 with the same gear so many times before I get bored.

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Think before you speak.

Darktide needs people for its abhorrent monetization systems and for it’s server infrastructure, since dedicated servers cost money, who would have thought. At the moment, the player base is currently on a downward trajectory. The numbers on steam charts are so inconsistent I have no idea what it’ll look when it finally stabilizes, if it even does. The game’s steam score also keeps tanking - it’s now at 60:

With Metacritic respectively sitting at mixed rating with critics and holding unfavorable reviews with users:

With how things are currently progressing. More and more people will leave the game, and once they do, what will happen to Darktide? Oh that’s right. Regional servers will be shut down first since it’ll no longer be profitable to maintain them. Resulting in people not being able to access the game they paid for. Fatshark will also probably increase the costs of their digital goods in order to maintain their profits as they did with Vermintide 2 when the player base shrunk over the years. All of which will ultimately suck for end users.

Let me ask you a question: did you think for one second before talking down to people and being a complete pest towards us. Or is this how you function in real life.

Wow, im rude now lol
Do you even read what you write before you post it
This aint Tik Tok… I dont know cause i dont have it. You clearly do

You researched some words you dont know or watched some “Rainmen” in the meantime and im not logical. Sure Buddy.
Where are your Arguments, i gave you plenty. YOU Zero, maybe think before you write and how it can be perceived, Logical isnt it.
Your Argument was 270hrs playtime and playing on Damnation
and
I dont get what i want blabla
Im Spoiled, how did you know?!
Again i gave you Arguments, you didnt have any to begin with and were just crying out.

No one thinks its a fair Progeression we all know that. It will change its leaked.
We all know its Predatory and Waste of time to a point.

And AGAIN you attacked me. But you could know if you could read and Understand what i or you wrote
I made a Statement and Argument for one specific post of yours, you are just frustrated which should not be my problem. Im not happy with the Loot either, but i make the most out of it in the meantime, like a Mature unlike you!
Theres a reason Emojis are used, so people can see what Emotion is behind someones Writing.

Have a Good Day sir!

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Ok bye

Imagine defending fatshark, attacking critics, while simultaneously playing the victim in the current year.

Modern Gamers :slight_smile:

Imagine understanding what somoene is saying and not understanding it.
Where is the defending?
Imagine being afraid of Posting and Argumenting and not just post shite after benny all the time…

Imagine Imagine Imagine

That was a Emoji Benny, really?!

Don’t feed troll anymore people. He is hungry.

gold medal in mental gymnastics.

IMAGINE a Gold metal in Mental Gymnastics…
but i like Platin and Silver more :thinking:

show me on the assassin rat plushie where the bad man hurt you.

Ignoring the troll and going back to discussion I am really glad that reviews are keep tanking. Seems like Fatshark really did give up long term on this game in hope for short term gain and Christmas sell. Reminds me a lot of Cyberpunk situation. I hope their profit will drop significantly so desperate changes will be rolled. Again… And they say 3rd time a charm

Negative reviews should hit their Christmas sale plan I hope.

Funny how decicated serves may bite them back though

I think they have unlimited money, but also an agenda which further explains this clown show of a launch that none of us will ever become privy to.

It can’t be this bad by mistake, there has to be a reasonable explanation.