# Gameplay Feedback **URL:** https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/vs/vs-feedback/117.md [Latest](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/tags.md) --- ## [About the Gameplay Feedback category](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/about-the-gameplay-feedback-category/101217)
**Author:** [@FatsharkLev](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/FatsharkLev)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [November 12, 2024, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/about-the-gameplay-feedback-category/101217 "2024-11-12T14:33:13Z")
This is a place to provide feedback to the developers about the Versus game mode! Please keep all feedback civil, respectful, and constructive. --- ## [More Use For Sellsword Marks!](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/more-use-for-sellsword-marks/119265)
**Author:** [@Torthurs](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Torthurs)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [March 13, 2026, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/more-use-for-sellsword-marks/119265 "2026-03-13T11:56:41Z")
This rank which is very far from max rank no longer provides marks as the limit is reached and literally nothing to buy. I listed all things in shop that remain unbought but they are locked behind DLCs. Do something ple… --- ## [Ran out of things to spends marks for](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ran-out-of-things-to-spends-marks-for/117949)
**Author:** [@Torthurs](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Torthurs)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [January 20, 2026, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ran-out-of-things-to-spends-marks-for/117949 "2026-01-20T01:51:44Z")
Got no DLCs but bought even poses for things like masterwork pistols. There is now literally nothing I can buy using marks. Only level 140 --- ## [Blightstormer and Life Leech needed to counter adjacent heroes](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/blightstormer-and-life-leech-needed-to-counter-adjacent-heroes/114036)
**Author:** [@jmoyano92](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/jmoyano92)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [December 2, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/blightstormer-and-life-leech-needed-to-counter-adjacent-heroes/114036 "2025-12-02T21:22:20Z")
Blightstormer and Life Leech needs to be added for Versus. Main reason is hero teams that never split are a huge balance issue at the moment. There is nothing you can do against them as Pactsworn: Packmaster, Gutter Run… --- ## [PVP Experience we need more](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pvp-experience-we-need-more/115026)
**Author:** [@hslqy](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/hslqy)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [November 25, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pvp-experience-we-need-more/115026 "2025-11-25T01:00:02Z")
There are fewer PvP players now，Selecting characters and loading takes a long time，experience is painfully limited.Later on, you’ll need to play 5 rounds or even 8 rounds to level up.A single round of the game takes 10-2… --- ## [Ratling Gunners are an issue currently](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ratling-gunners-are-an-issue-currently/113894)
**Author:** [@Vror](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Vror)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [October 23, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ratling-gunners-are-an-issue-currently/113894 "2025-10-23T04:58:33Z")
I need to clarify, they’re not OP, but they’re extremely Polarizing to character diversity It forces a meta among Heroes, it being Forcing everyone who can to run shields to run them Shields essentially shut down a Rat… --- ## [Verminous Dreams' final map, book locations](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/verminous-dreams-final-map-book-locations/112450)
**Author:** [@fyerz](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/fyerz)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [September 12, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/verminous-dreams-final-map-book-locations/112450 "2025-09-12T01:03:11Z")
The map is sometimes fun, not to mention the stupid spamming of elite enemies with shields that should do something with their resistance, but anyway the point is that the location of a tome and a grimoire … has someone … --- ## [Versus is dead, and I am sad for it](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/versus-is-dead-and-i-am-sad-for-it/111646)
**Author:** [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Replies:** 16\ **Last updated:** [August 22, 2025, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/versus-is-dead-and-i-am-sad-for-it/111646 "2025-08-22T07:24:33Z")
Nothing more to say. --- ## [Please give us AI pactsworn in custom games](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-give-us-ai-pactsworn-in-custom-games/111354)
**Author:** [@Dennemi](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dennemi)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [August 7, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-give-us-ai-pactsworn-in-custom-games/111354 "2025-08-07T16:05:36Z")
Pleeeaaasee!!! It’s gonna let 1v1s with friends or just generally not full private lobbies be much more enjoyable --- ## [Almost 1 full year of Versus (Ultimate review of the mode)](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/almost-1-full-year-of-versus-ultimate-review-of-the-mode/111330)
**Author:** [@Vror](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Vror)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [July 30, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/almost-1-full-year-of-versus-ultimate-review-of-the-mode/111330 "2025-07-30T18:56:25Z")
I make this post to express my feelings towards this mode. Appreciation, Doubts and Problems I still have with it after nearly a full year since release Overall Experience Versus has been the BEST VT2 experience I ever … --- ## [How I think we could fix Versus (a holistic look at the mode as a game designer)](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/how-i-think-we-could-fix-versus-a-holistic-look-at-the-mode-as-a-game-designer/111188)
**Author:** [@Emberwick](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Emberwick)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [July 22, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/how-i-think-we-could-fix-versus-a-holistic-look-at-the-mode-as-a-game-designer/111188 "2025-07-22T16:48:16Z")
Hi! I love VT2 and play Cata regularly. I want to get into Versus but I keep running into a few structural snags that I think could be addressed in one way or another to make the gamemode something I want to return to ov… --- ## [Thus far observed cheats](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/thus-far-observed-cheats/102253)
**Author:** [@Frostysir](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Frostysir)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [May 12, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/thus-far-observed-cheats/102253 "2025-05-12T11:17:55Z")
Ability to instantly kill all enemy skaven, kinda like that one mod that lets you spawn enemies in modded realm can do. Self healing Damage resistance - Some heroes just do not take any real damage from anything, like t… --- ## [Proposed changes to Monsters](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/proposed-changes-to-monsters/108864)
**Author:** [@Vror](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Vror)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [June 13, 2025, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/proposed-changes-to-monsters/108864 "2025-06-13T02:03:14Z")
It’s gonna be a year of versus soon, and Monster power has been a constant through the entirety of it Sadly, they’re weak. Troll is almost there in the perfect spot, but Rat Ogre needs a LOT of help, so let’s start with… --- ## [Kruber weave shield excessively large](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kruber-weave-shield-excessively-large/107990)
**Author:** [@Bleednshiver](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Bleednshiver)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [May 18, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kruber-weave-shield-excessively-large/107990 "2025-05-18T21:38:23Z")
In the weaves Kruber’s shield is excessively large. It blocks 70% of the screen. You cannot see Center. You can’t see most of the upper left. If you are blocking and you want to see what the enemy grouping is you hav… --- ## [Custom settings for private matches need to let us save our presets + let us have AI pactsworn](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/custom-settings-for-private-matches-need-to-let-us-save-our-presets-let-us-have-ai-pactsworn/106949)
**Author:** [@Dennemi](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dennemi)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [May 12, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/custom-settings-for-private-matches-need-to-let-us-save-our-presets-let-us-have-ai-pactsworn/106949 "2025-05-12T11:18:13Z")
Let us save custom presets since re-creating them each time is a hassle Plus, let us have bots on the pactsworn side, at least as a custom setting, to make smaller private games more fun --- ## [Please let players swap team](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-let-players-swap-team/105972)
**Author:** [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [March 28, 2025, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-let-players-swap-team/105972 "2025-03-28T18:52:50Z")
Today, I wanted to play Versus, since there is a new map. What I played was a 2 vs 4 game. My teammate and me, tried to do our best… but it was impossible. I don’t know if some player would have swapped. (Not everyone… --- ## [Versus, full of toxic players](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/versus-full-of-toxic-players/104451)
**Author:** [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [January 25, 2025, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/versus-full-of-toxic-players/104451 "2025-01-25T09:20:13Z")
Sad, but we went from nice people in Beta version, to this. Maybe is only me, but 2 of 3 games I join, there are at least 1 toxic player. Why? Idk. But players… try to enjoy the game, don’t be toxic with noobs, that w… --- ## [Yet another (and last) balance thread from a Gold player](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/yet-another-and-last-balance-thread-from-a-gold-player/103759)
**Author:** [@Vror](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Vror)\ **Replies:** 71\ **Last updated:** [January 13, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/yet-another-and-last-balance-thread-from-a-gold-player/103759 "2025-01-13T20:16:26Z")
Finally level 150!!!. Yes I know I made a previous thread, but I promise this is the most extensive one with EVERYTHING related to balance I also participated in the Versus Tourney which I think gives me a few extra bon… --- ## [Why I stopped playing Versus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/why-i-stopped-playing-versus/104172)
**Author:** [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [January 9, 2025, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/why-i-stopped-playing-versus/104172 "2025-01-09T10:32:01Z")
Hello, I am one of those who asked many times for more Versus. I really like it. Right now there are 2 things why I dont play it right now: I am addicted to Darktide. - Too many noobs in Versus. And the second reaso… --- ## [Against the Grain is horrible](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/against-the-grain-is-horrible/104195)
**Author:** [@maximumgraf](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/maximumgraf)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [January 7, 2025, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/against-the-grain-is-horrible/104195 "2025-01-07T14:45:08Z")
This map SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS First round. There is NO WAY to stop heroes as Skavens. No hard points, chokes, highgrounds, hard events, everything is stupidly open, and Boss can spawn AFTER they go through last building, b… --- ## [Remove the "Mercy Rule" from Quickplay](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/remove-the-mercy-rule-from-quickplay/104034)
**Author:** [@Vror](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Vror)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [January 4, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/remove-the-mercy-rule-from-quickplay/104034 "2025-01-04T18:56:19Z")
By “Mercy Rule” I mean that the game automatically ends when a team reaches a score it’s impossible for the other team to reach This is unnecessary for quickplay as it kills the fun for many people in an instant (especi… --- ## [Triple melee in VS should be a bannable offense](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/triple-melee-in-vs-should-be-a-bannable-offense/103764)
**Author:** [@GiantFriendCrab](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/GiantFriendCrab)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [January 4, 2025, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/triple-melee-in-vs-should-be-a-bannable-offense/103764 "2025-01-04T10:26:10Z")
No, I’m not joking. I know WP and Slayer are good picks on their own, but I shouldn’t have to explain why 3 melee-only classes is a terrible idea in a game mode where killing specials is more important than ever. Especia… --- ## [Matchmaking needs to be looked at for balance](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/matchmaking-needs-to-be-looked-at-for-balance/101694)
**Author:** [@Gabe1](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Gabe1)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [January 1, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/matchmaking-needs-to-be-looked-at-for-balance/101694 "2025-01-01T22:32:23Z")
The matchmaking in lobbies needs some rework to avid situations where one team has multiple new players while the other team has mostly experienced players. I don’t know how the matchmaking is weighted, but even if I… --- ## [Quicktime events](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/quicktime-events/103821)
**Author:** [@Quinny01](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Quinny01)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [January 1, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/quicktime-events/103821 "2025-01-01T14:30:45Z")
Can we please have a quick time event for being in a net or trapped by a dog!? Its infuriating to just watch a dog or net end the game! --- ## [The lack of matchmaking](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-lack-of-matchmaking/101364)
**Author:** [@Frostysir](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Frostysir)\ **Replies:** 12\ **Last updated:** [December 28, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-lack-of-matchmaking/101364 "2024-12-28T23:07:34Z")
So having played a bit more since last time. This mode has some potential to be interesting but the complete lack of matchmaking and the very lacking help for the losing side (esp skaven) renders it all down to nothing … --- ## [Quick play search range is not working](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/quick-play-search-range-is-not-working/103757)
**Author:** [@WariorMikePL](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/WariorMikePL)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [December 27, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/quick-play-search-range-is-not-working/103757 "2024-12-27T21:05:24Z")
As the title says, despite setting quick play search range to “near”, it seems to not work as intended. Just now i got thrown into probably SE lobby with 200 ping (by words of other player, who when asked, said they wer… --- ## [The amount of leavers is staggering](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-amount-of-leavers-is-staggering/101315)
**Author:** [@CobaltNinja](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CobaltNinja)\ **Replies:** 11\ **Last updated:** [December 27, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-amount-of-leavers-is-staggering/101315 "2024-12-27T20:21:27Z")
It’s like playing Darktide all over again. People leave before the game starts, leave when they start losing, whenever they feel like it. I haven’t lost a single game yet of about eight, and it’s because either the team… --- ## [Please stop stealth changes and give correct patch notes](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-stop-stealth-changes-and-give-correct-patch-notes/103696)
**Author:** [@Basti](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Basti)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [December 27, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-stop-stealth-changes-and-give-correct-patch-notes/103696 "2024-12-27T13:24:28Z")
Playable monster HP was increased from 600 to 800. How do I know? Certainly not from patch notes because it wasn’t in there. Can you please make sure to put changes to Versus balance into the patch notes; thank you! So… --- ## [A bit of versus feedback after playing up to blue rank](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/a-bit-of-versus-feedback-after-playing-up-to-blue-rank/103698)
**Author:** [@Haxorzist](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Haxorzist)\ **Replies:** 22\ **Last updated:** [December 26, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/a-bit-of-versus-feedback-after-playing-up-to-blue-rank/103698 "2024-12-26T17:02:45Z")
It’s been quite some time since I last posted anything. For those that remember, I’m probably more known for my negativity. So, to push back against that I’ll start with the good stuff. Versus really surprised me how we… --- ## [Inconsistent monster spawn](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/inconsistent-monster-spawn/103647)
**Author:** [@DEAD\_RaNgEr\_888](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DEAD_RaNgEr_888)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [December 25, 2024, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/inconsistent-monster-spawn/103647 "2024-12-25T07:35:56Z")
Can something be done about the inconsistent monster spawns? Some round on screaming bell the monster will spawn when the ubersreik 5 reach the bomb cart, while other times the monster will spawn when they are finished w… [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/vs/vs-feedback/117.md?page=1)